I paddle a Dagger Meridian (16'L, 22"W), which is not a fast boat. I've paddled several times with a fellow who has a Dagger Sitka (17' 11"L, 22"W). The Sitka is a little heavier than the Meridian, but he weighs 20-25 lbs. less than I do, so the total paddler+boat+gear weight is less for him than for me. His Sitka floats higher in the water than my Meridian and his potential top speed is higher than mine. However, my boat is less affected by crosswinds and it's easy to push along at normal paddling speeds. Another paddling friend has an Janautica Anadyr (17' 5"L, 21'W). The boat weighs about the same as my Meridian, but again he's 20-25 lbs. lighter than I am. When he paddles his Anadyr, he's faster than I am in my Meridian, but we enjoy paddling together even though I have to work fairly hard to keep my speed up. I won't race him, even for fun. He and his wife paddle a Wilderness Systems Echo. I've paddled with them too, a good workout for me. Here in the Carolinas, guys are using the Necky Looksha II (20'L, 20"W) for informal racing. I appreciate the potential speed of that design, but I like not having to pay attention to my boat all the time. I'd hate to stop to look at a bird and find myself upside down because I got careless. The first time I got a positive ID on a pied-billed grebe, the bird and I were bouncing up and down in a boat wake and I was concentrating on the bird, not the foot high waves. I don't know that I could do that in a really narrow boat. Bob -------------------------------------------------- Robert C. Perkins, Ph.D. Associate Dean for Research and Planning Methodist College, Fayetteville, NC 28311 910-630-7037 rperkins_at_methodist.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net ***************************************************************************
> >Here in the Carolinas, guys are using the Necky Looksha II (20'L, 20"W) for >informal racing. I appreciate the potential speed of that design, but I >like not having to pay attention to my boat all the time. I'd hate to stop >to look at a bird and find myself upside down because I got careless. The >first time I got a positive ID on a pied-billed grebe, the bird and I were >bouncing up and down in a boat wake and I was concentrating on the bird, >not the foot high waves. I don't know that I could do that in a really >narrow boat. > >Bob > Down here in Florida at the race at Captive Island, Task did not let any boats over 19ft race. All the people with the Looksha II were out of luck ( There were about Five that made the trip to Fla. Just for the race.) When ask why? they said that it was a unfar advantage. But they would not make a class for them. Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net ***************************************************************************
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 dldecker_at_mediaone.net wrote: >> >>> >>>Here in the Carolinas, guys are using the Necky Looksha II (20'L, 20"W) for >>>informal racing. I appreciate the potential speed of that design, but I >>>like not having to pay attention to my boat all the time. I'd hate to stop >>>to look at a bird and find myself upside down because I got careless. The >>>first time I got a positive ID on a pied-billed grebe, the bird and I were >>>bouncing up and down in a boat wake and I was concentrating on the bird, >>>not the foot high waves. I don't know that I could do that in a really >>>narrow boat. >>> >>>Bob >>> >>Down here in Florida at the race at Captive Island, Task did not let any >>boats over 19ft race. All the people with the Looksha II were out of luck ( >>There were about Five that made the trip to Fla. Just for the race.) >>When ask why? they said that it was a unfar advantage. But they would not >>make a class for them. >> >>Dana >> most of the races i've been in [open canoe] they make a class, given 3+ boats of the proposed class... mark #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/cpr [Colorado Paddlers' Resource] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmskc [Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmcc [Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page] http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark [personal] -- Fortune: You can't start worrying about what's going to happen. You get spastic enough worrying about what's happening now. -- Lauren Bacall *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net ***************************************************************************
> >Here in the Carolinas, guys are using the Necky Looksha II (20'L, 20"W) for >informal racing. > Down here in Florida at the race at Captive Island, Task did not let any boats over 19ft race. All the people with the Looksha II were out of luck ( ========== here on the eastern shore of MD, there are 3 races... April, May, June. which have lots of canoe and kayak classes. for kayaks, mens/ladies lengths under 14.5 ft, to 18, and above 18 is open to any hot kayak or surf ski you care to enter. rumor is that this year will also have senior's classes. there could be a couple of 19 ft wave XL's this year. the hot time last year was at the first race, where a fellow in a down river boat blew the field away... 8 miles in 1hr 1 min. his max stroke rate was supposedly something like 210/min... but that might have been his pulse... who knows? we're old, we're puggy, we paddle. it's fun, it's social, we hate to lose. so if you fell lucky, come on out and join in. and if you got races in your area, let us know. i've seen web sites for ww kayak racing and marathon canoe racing, but marathon kayak races seem to be harder to locate. Where are they and when? bye bye bliven *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net ***************************************************************************
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Larry Bliven wrote: >> >>> >>>Here in the Carolinas, guys are using the Necky Looksha II (20'L, 20"W) >>for >>>informal racing. >> >> > >>Down here in Florida at the race at Captive Island, Task did not let any >>boats over 19ft race. All the people with the Looksha II were out of luck ( >>========== >>here on the eastern shore of MD, there are 3 races... April, May, June. >>which have lots of canoe and kayak classes. for kayaks, mens/ladies lengths >>under 14.5 ft, to 18, and above 18 is open to any hot kayak or surf ski you >>care to enter. rumor is that this year will also have senior's classes. >>there could be a couple of 19 ft wave XL's this year. the hot time last >>year was at the first race, where a fellow in a down river boat blew the >>field away... 8 miles in 1hr 1 min. his max stroke rate was supposedly >>something like 210/min... but that might have been his pulse... who knows? >> >> we're old, we're puggy, we paddle. >>it's fun, it's social, we hate to lose. >> >>so if you fell lucky, come on out and join in. >>and if you got races in your area, let us know. >>i've seen web sites for ww kayak racing and marathon canoe racing, but >>marathon kayak races seem to be harder to locate. Where are they and when? >> >>bye bye bliven some of the canoe [marathon type] races out here are adding a kayak class, as SKs become more popular... mark and on the non-paddling side, larry, some years ago, i picked up an expression of "st. bliven's day" meaning, "never" as in "i doubt i'll get it done before st. bliven's day" ... i picked it up from a friend, who got it from a grand parent... is there some kind of truth/history behind that, of which you are aware?? #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/cpr [Colorado Paddlers' Resource] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmskc [Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmcc [Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page] http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark [personal] -- Fortune: "You must realize that the computer has it in for you. The irrefutable proof of this is that the computer always does what you tell it to do." *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net ***************************************************************************
from mark and on the non-paddling side, larry, some years ago, i picked up an expression of "st. bliven's day" meaning, "never" as in "i doubt i'll get it done before st. bliven's day" ... i picked it up from a friend, who got it from a grand parent... is there some kind of truth/history behind that, of which you are aware?? ============== well mark, what can i say, st. bliven's day is news to me. however, sounds like someone could have been talking to my wife. i'm going paddling... painting can wait... clean what up? when? as for dragonflies... a few years ago while driving across the bay/bridge tunnel at Norfolk va, i watched a huge swarm of monarch butterflies make the ~25 mile open water crossing at the mouth of the chesapeake bay... does that count? i'm still trying to have a bird land on either my canoe or kayak while afloat. i think that baiting them might help. anyone had success at that? bye bye bliven *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net ***************************************************************************
At 10:58 AM 1/30/98 -0500, Larry Bliven wrote: > >as for dragonflies... a few years ago while driving across the bay/bridge >tunnel at Norfolk va, i watched a huge swarm of monarch butterflies make >the ~25 mile open water crossing at the mouth of the chesapeake bay... does >that count? It counts as butterflies. ;-) Only dragonflies count as dragonflies, though damselflies are a close second. > >i'm still trying to have a bird land on either my canoe or kayak while >afloat. i think that baiting them might help. anyone had success at that? Ive had much better luck with dragonflies landing on my kayak, but no birds. I saw a seagull try to drop something on me once though, and a short-eared owl nearly landed on my dog's back once. I will not rest until I find that seagull. ;-) When I used to paddle at _______ in Washington, I would rescue drowning insects and put them on the yak to dry out. Grasshoppers are fun-they will crawl to the bow of the boat and stand sentry at the tip like a watchful hood ornament. Wayne *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net ***************************************************************************
On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Larry Bliven wrote: >> >>from mark >> >>and on the non-paddling side, larry, some years ago, i picked up an >>expression of "st. bliven's day" meaning, "never" as in "i doubt i'll get >>it done before st. bliven's day" ... i picked it up from a friend, who got >>it from a grand parent... is there some kind of truth/history behind that, >>of which you are aware?? >>============== >>well mark, what can i say, >> >>st. bliven's day is news to me. however, sounds like someone could have >>been talking to my wife. i'm going paddling... painting can wait... clean >>what up? when? >> >>as for dragonflies... a few years ago while driving across the bay/bridge >>tunnel at Norfolk va, i watched a huge swarm of monarch butterflies make >>the ~25 mile open water crossing at the mouth of the chesapeake bay... does >>that count? i don't remember exacly where, but i sure remember driving my motorcycle around in north carolina, and having a dragonfly hit me in the chest, except i was wearing my dogtags, and it hit the tag. goo all over the shirt, and a big welt that looked like a dogtag [wonder why??] on my chest!! >> >>i'm still trying to have a bird land on either my canoe or kayak while >>afloat. i think that baiting them might help. anyone had success at that? >> >>bye bye bliven >> moths, bugs, a frog once, never a bird though bye bye birdie ;-) mark #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/cpr [Colorado Paddlers' Resource] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmskc [Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmcc [Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page] http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark [personal] -- Fortune: "You must realize that the computer has it in for you. The irrefutable proof of this is that the computer always does what you tell it to do." *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net ***************************************************************************
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