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From: Craig Olson <craigo_at_az.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] touring boats
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:28:33 -0800
Awhile back, I had the opportunity to paddle a Necky Looksha 3 sea kayak for a few
months.  Actually, I bought it & then took it back.  It's a pretty radical design,
being 19' 6" long, double hard chines and a beam of only 19 inches.

I noted the following:  

(1) It's incredibly fast!  I could outrun highly experienced paddlers in more
traditional boats without really even trying all that hard.  On one 4 mile crossing
in fairly rough seas, I noted a speed made good of almost 5 knots, and I wasn't in
any real hurry!  This was near slack tide, so the current was not a significant
factor in my speed.  When I got my Solstice GT, at first it felt like I was paddling
a "lifeless plank" as Derek Hutchinson would say.  I'm pretty much used to the
Solstice now, and think it is a very good boat.

(2) The Looksha is **very** tippy.  (19" beam)  My paddling style is generally one
part performance kayaking and two or three parts just noodling around.  In the
Looksha, I couldn't really relax & look at eagles & seastars, or just "drift &
dream"  without being aware of staying upright.  During rest breaks, I occasionally
got out the paddle float just to be able to totally relax.  I think this is probably
because I didn't paddle it long enough to get comfortable with how far you can lean
before having to pay attention.

(3)  the long skinny profile necessitated an additional piece of equipment.  An
umbrella!  to fish stuff out of the extreme ends of the storage compartments!  No
way could I reach that tent with my hand!

Anyone else paddle this boat or one similar to it?  I miss the speed and agility but
I don't want to give up the comfort of my current boat.  'Guess I'm looking for ways
to have the best of both worlds.

Craig Olson
Bellingham, Washington

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From: Keith Kaste <kkaste_at_slip.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wave~Length: touring boats
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:38:49 -0800
I just demoed a Looksha III for a couple hours last weekend.  I found it to be fast and
tippy.  I also found that it would start tracking in its own direction and I would have
to lean pretty hard to get it back on course.  I'm sure that would cease to be a problem
once I got comfortable with its secondary stability.  The Caribou I demoed right after
that seemed a whole lot more even tempered.  I didn't get a close look at the Looksha
III hull but I'm guessing it gets some of its speed from a low amount of rocker.  That
must be where it gets its tracking, too.  The difficulty I had bringing it back on
course probably had to do with its rounded bilge (compared to the Caribou and my hard
chine stitch and glue) and the low amount of rocker.

The question I have for the techies out there that are familiar with the Looksha III is
this:  Besides the obvious length and width issues does it derive its speed by having
low rocker and a rounded bilge?  On the other side of the coin I paddled a fiberglass
Sea Lion.  It felt like it had a lead keel.  It just didn't want to lean.  How is that
accomplished?  Mostly by width?

Craig Olson wrote:

> Awhile back, I had the opportunity to paddle a Necky Looksha 3 sea kayak for a few
> months.  Actually, I bought it & then took it back.  It's a pretty radical design,
> being 19' 6" long, double hard chines and a beam of only 19 inches.
>

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> Anyone else paddle this boat or one similar to it?  I miss the speed and agility but
> I don't want to give up the comfort of my current boat.  'Guess I'm looking for ways
> to have the best of both worlds.
>
> Craig Olson
> Bellingham, Washington
>
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From: Gerald Foodman <klagjf_at_worldnet.att.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wave~Length: touring boats
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 22:59:27 -0800
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Kaste <kkaste_at_slip.net>
To: Craig Olson <craigo_at_az.com>
Cc: WaveLength <wavelength_at_lists.intelenet.net>; PaddleWise
<PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Wave~Length: touring boats


>I just demoed a Looksha III for a couple hours last weekend.  I found it to
be fast and
>tippy.  I also found that it would start tracking in its own direction and
I would have
>to lean pretty hard to get it back on course.  I'm sure that would cease to
be a problem
>once I got comfortable with its secondary stability.  The Caribou I demoed
right after
>that seemed a whole lot more even tempered.  I didn't get a close look at
the Looksha
>III hull but I'm guessing it gets some of its speed from a low amount of
rocker.  That
>must be where it gets its tracking, too.  The difficulty I had bringing it
back on
>course probably had to do with its rounded bilge (compared to the Caribou
and my hard
>chine stitch and glue) and the low amount of rocker.
>

I demo'd the Caribou in 25 knot winds on protected water.  It weathercocked
terribly.  Extremely hard to hold on course.  Try it in wind before you buy.

Jerry


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From: Dan Hagen <dhagen_at_methow.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wave~Length: touring boats
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 23:53:52 -0800
Gerald Foodman wrote:

> I demo'd the Caribou in 25 knot winds on protected water.  It weathercocked
> terribly.  Extremely hard to hold on course.  

I don't have any trouble holding a Caribou on course.  I've paddled a
Caribou in everthing from gentle breezes to a full gale, and on bodies
of water ranging from a lake to the open ocean.  As for your
difficulties, several possibilities come to mind.  First, any tendency
to weathercock will be exacerbated by a wind blowing over a short reach
(such as when you are paddling in a strong wind behind a protective
jetty or on a lake).  Second, the Caribou is somewhat sensitive to
trim.  It paddles better when loaded a tad stern heavy.  Third, the
Caribou is extremely maneuverable.  While this makes it easy to correct
for course deviations, it doesn't have the "locked on" feeling of less
maneuverable boats.  This doesn't bother me, but then again I don't find
it all that difficult to paddle a whitewater boat in a straight line,
and the Caribou tracks like it is on rails compared to my whitewater
kayak.  While some folks don't like boats with "soft" tracking, I much
prefer a highly maneuverable boat to a boat that sacrifices
maneuverability for tracking stiffness.  I have a Sosltice that tracks
stiffly but I seldom use it anymore--It doesn't feel very lively. To
each his own.

> Try it in wind before you buy.

This is always a good idea!

Dan Hagen
Bellingham, Washington

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From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen_at_imagelan.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Wave~Length: touring boats
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:57:05 -0500 (EST)
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Craig Olson wrote:

> Awhile back, I had the opportunity to paddle a Necky Looksha 3 sea kayak for a few
> months.  Actually, I bought it & then took it back.  It's a pretty radical design,
> being 19' 6" long, double hard chines and a beam of only 19 inches.
> 
> Anyone else paddle this boat or one similar to it?  I miss the speed and agility but
> I don't want to give up the comfort of my current boat.  'Guess I'm looking for ways
> to have the best of both worlds.

I've given up on having the best of both worlds in one boat.  I've got a 
surf ski to "complement" my sea kayaks.  It's fun to have a go fast boat.
It's definitely not useful for much more than having a speedy paddle in
open areas.  I need about 40 yards of space to turn it around.  On a 50 foot
wide river I needed to do a 5 point(?) turn to turn around, back and
forth, back and forth. 

kirk

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