Re: [Paddlewise] Liability and Waivers

> From: dldecker_at_mediaone.net


> At 11:43 AM 2/9/98 -0800, Jackie Fenton wrote:
> >
> >(this was under the subject header of "Paddling Clubs")
> 
> 
> 
> It was a reply to a question of paddling clubs and I thought that it still
> concerns clubs,
> I can and often am wrong. picky picky picky

I think you misunderstood.  I was changing the subject to another and only
indicating what the old subject was so that those who might want to go back 
and reread the entire thread could find it and also indicating by changing
the subject that there was now an emphasis on talking about liability waivers 
for those who would be interested in that and not interested in a new club 
discussion.


> 
>  I am no lawyer, and don't play the part on TV, and did not write the
> Waiver. I can only say that I don't like the whole idea of having to have
> waivers. The people I paddle with on club trips are the same I paddle with
> at other times.

I agree about the waivers.  When I coordinated trips, I rarely used
waivers.  When I put together a trip on my own, I never use waivers.
Unfortunately, with club liability and club trips, waivers have become
necessary.  In some areas, though, I think incorporating the club is more
critical than waivers to protect members from those who coordinate or
lead a trip and who might behave in an irresponsible and/or negligent manner,
or forget to have club members sign waivers :-) 

My change in subject title was to hopefully stimulate discussion on this
topic specifically.  I am still unaware of any paddling club that has
been sued.

Thanks for presenting your club waiver, Dana.  It gives us some point
of reference for discussing pros and cons of specifics in waivers and
what the solutions might be for various organizations (of course, 
location plays a large part in the writing of the waiver).

Cheers,

Jackie
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