On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Jackie Fenton wrote: > >> >>> A waiver can state to the indivuidual that there are inherent risks in the >>> undertaking and therefore it is the person's responsibility to make sure that >>> they understand the risks. >> >> >>I read the waiver on the web site that Hank gave: >> >> http://www.teleport.com/nonprofit/LCCC/waiver.htm >> >>What I really liked was the emphasis on individual responsiblity. In other >>words, it is the paddler that is ultimately responsible for their own safety >>and I think this is an excellent beginning for a new paddler. To understand >>that the risks they take are ultimately of their own decision. I can't help >>but wonder if a statement which reads that failure to follow the directions >>of the trip leader/coordinator will result in the paddler being unable to >>participate in any further club trips might send the message that the >>leader/coordinator is ultimate authority and therefore accepting responsibility >>for the safety of the paddlers. Waivers and liability issues aside, I think i think that's a very good point... our waiver is similar to the LCCC waiver above. you can get to it in various forms by going to the RMCC home page, but i put a copy for online viewing at: http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmcc/waiver.html it does some of the same things as the LCCC, ie, should get people thinking... >>getting the paddler to think about what they are doing and the possible >>outcome is the most important lesson. That could start with the waiver they >>sign when joining the club. Doesn't matter whether it holds up in court, imho, >>but it could be used as a springboard to teaching safety awareness which is an >>important benefit of joining a club. >> >>Actually, I liked John Winter's waiver. I think I'll change his name to >>mine, all the he's to she's, and run off several copies for my next coordinated >>trip :-) >> >>Cheers! >> >>Jackie (who can't wait to read about Barb's hippos!) >>http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/ >> that should be a good read!! >> _ _ _ >> _ _ \\ / \0/ \ >> / \0/ \ \\ " >> " `\ >> ,sSSs,\, >> )\w/( ,sSS..)/{) >> <<..> sSSS_v)/ \ >> )<*> sSS[(\_]___\ >> <(_/_o_o_ 'sS[_`-+---+) >> \----+-------+-------'---`-----\-------------') >> ~~~~~~~ ~~jf ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~~~\~ ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ >> o \ >> o \\ o o >> \\ o >> o /\ o ` >> / \ /\ >> ,,___,~~~~""' `""""""' `~~~~.__ /} o >> o <, ~_at_ ``~~.__/ } >> `vvvvvvvv, )))) o __ ( o >> ^^^^^^" ___.~~~'' \ } >> o `~~~~~~~~\ )~~~~~~~~'''' o \} o >> o \_/ o o >> (\ >> O< --- o >jf:-) o ---- >O >> O< ----- (/ ---- >O >> >> i always have such a hard time clipping jackie's sigs... so i never do ;-) mark #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/cpr [Colorado Paddlers' Resource] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmskc [Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club] http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmcc [Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page] http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark [personal] -- Fortune: "I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week sometimes to make it up." -- Mark Twain, "The Innocents Abroad" *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Feb 10 1998 - 12:31:12 PST
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