Re: [Paddlewise] Fwd: Near Miss Report 1997

Boy , that white water report make Sea Kayaking seem like a safe Sport (
notice I said seem)picky, picky 
 Lets see
#1 Amahac River in Mexico
he was shoved to the
> >right side of a drop. The boulder was undercut, and he and his rodeo boat
> >were shoved under the rock. His kayak pinned, he bailed out, His boat
> >and paddle never reappeared, 

Never seen that sea kayaking

#2 River’s End Rapid on the Lower Yough
a woman on a self-guided raft trip with friends had  fallen out of her
> >raft at the top of the rapid and become wedged at the hips, head
> >downstream, between Snaggletooth and the adjoining rock. She fought to keep
> >her head above water but was rapidly becoming exhausted 

never seen any one pinned in the ocean sea kayaking

#3 Coliseum Rapid on West Virginia’s Cheat River.  
pinned under a huge log pinned against a giant rock on the left shore. 

Now I have seen this on a river trip sea kayaking

#4 strainer on Tumwater Canyon of Washington’s Wenachee River

Seen this to, water is high in the rivers now with all the rain so it is as
dangerous in sea kayaking

#5 Lower Ocoee River in Tennessee
a female boater get trashed and recirculated there. 

seen this at the surf zone in the ocean

#6 Little Poplar Hill Falls
The first swimmer ended up at the old George Washington
Canal cut where a climber found him barely able to move

I'll give in on this one to because the surf would do about the same

#7 Section IV of the Chatooga River. 
its bizarre rock formations Hydroelectric Rock

Maybe if you are around sea caves when sea kayaking, but we don't have any
rocks around here.

 So two sea kayaking not as dangerous ,  five about equal in the dangerous.
So I stand by my statement
On Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 07:16:28PM -0500, dldecker_at_mediaone.net wrote:
 Boy , that white water report make Sea Kayaking seem like a safe Sport.

Now driving to the put in is the really dangerous part, besides a helmet is
only worn sea kayaking while playing in the surf, don't you wear one most
all the time? I won't even get into the PFD issue. And yes I use to white
water but 7-9 hours drive just wasn't worth it when in ten minutes I can be
in the water sea kayaking.

Dana


At 08:11 PM 2/17/98 -0800, Dave Kruger wrote:
>Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 1998 at 07:16:28PM -0500, dldecker_at_mediaone.net wrote:
>> > Boy , that white water report make Sea Kayaking seem like a safe Sport.
>> 
>>[snip] If you want to try to compare them, you'll need to
>> look at accident rates in terms of (say) injuries/paddler-hour or
>> some other statistical measure that lends itself to comparisons.
>> 
>> But please don't leap to unfounded conclusions based on anecdotal
>> evidence, which is all that Charlie was reporting.
>
>Rich makes sense here.  I wonder if anyone has good data on the accident
>RATE in the two sports?  WW certainly "looks" dangerous to the
>uninitiated -- which may drive newbies to get some training.  OTOH, sea
>kayaking often looks harmless, lulling folks into believing it's always
>benign.
>
>"Deep Trouble," the Broze/Gronseth book, is a good eye-opener for
>newbies to read.  Goes a long ways towards emulating the accident
>summaries put out annually for climbers by the American Alpine Club.
>
>-- 
>Dave Kruger
>Astoria, OR
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