Chuck Holst wrote: > [Major snip] > I believe strongly that groups need leaders and if they need leaders, they > also need followers (or at least active participants). If a person wants > to paddle as though they are by themselves when with a group then they > should not be in a group. > John Winskill > Well said. [snip] No one, especially the slowest paddler, > should be ever be left to paddle alone. > > The flip side of this is that each trip participant must be honest > about his or her capabilities. It is possible to ruin a trip for the > entire group by abusing the "no group paddles faster than its > slowest member" rule. Used to be, in the mountains, the ethic was "stick with your buddies -- everybody stays together, and everybody leaves the mountain together." But, the rule also was that folks who misrepresented their climbing abilities did *not* get invited back, at least until they had upgraded their skills. Seems like the same rules ought to apply on the water. (Warning: I feel a rant coming on.) This gets more difficult when leading trips for hire, however. When I taught X-C skiing classes for a local community college, a major problem was dealing with exceptionally out-of-shape individuals and/or folks who would not acquire and bring necessary personal survival gear (10 essentials, etc.). The posture of publically-supported instructional bodies re: "refusing" anyone who signed up for a class, or, (heaven forfend) "refunding their money" prevented me from removing folks who were troublemakers or were so unfit they were a liability on the easiest of beginner terrain. Lack of support from gutless administrators, fearful of "offending" anyone, eventually drove me out of the X-C instruction hobby. The problem people took up much time and energy which could have gone toward enriching those who were prepared for the experience. [Aside: the guy who took over the program when I quit had a woman sign up who "injured" her knee on a trip. Turned out, in the ensuing litigation, she had chronic knee problems, had had surgery on the joint, and was NOT endorsed by her physician to be X-C skiing! None of this could be revealed in a mandatory screening during signup because of "privacy" policy restrictions of the school (which were altered as a result of this incident). Glad it was not my headache. Woof!] I imagine, from what I've seen on the water in popular places, that guided sea kayaking groups have some of the same problems. I bet that a guide who "rejects" a client as too unsafe or "unprepared" gets a ration of "stuff" from the owners. What say you, trip leaders? (Not me, never again.) -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Mon Feb 23 1998 - 07:40:52 PST
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