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From: <MadPoodle_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re: Pike, Pickerel, Hammer Handles, Slimey Beasts..
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 05:35:51 EST
In a message dated 2/24/98 3:32:30 AM, soverein_at_nanaimo.ark.com wrote:

>but catch and release does not include leaving the hook in

	Actually, yes it does. Unless you are using stainless hooks, the amount of
time it takes a hook to rust out is very brief. Most if not all fishing groups
recommend cutting the leader as close to the hook as possible. Seems the more
you handle the fish, the more damage you do to it. Yanking the fish out of the
water does internal damage, handling it removes some of the slime protecting
its body. 
	However, having said that, I always try to remove the hook just in case..
I usually bring the fish up to the side of the boat, yak, PWC or whatever I am
fishing from, even my leg when wading the flats, and use my leatherman to
remove the hook. Yes, even sharks can have the hook removed this way, but just
not against my leg... I fish almost exclusively C n R, light tackle, and it is
rare that I release a fish with a hook in it...

Scott

Closer to the Bay of Pigs 2nite
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From: MR. SOVEREIGN <soverein_at_nanaimo.ark.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Pike, Pickerel, Hammer Handles, Slimey Beasts..
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:13:03 -0800
I have fished for pike many times and have never had a problem removing the hook
unless it has been swallowed.  In this case, a quick dispatch is necessary (however,
in the case of pike, quick dispatch is not in their vocabulary.)

30" northern pike can be handled at the boat, however I have never truthfully fished
for them in a kayak.

The fishers (note the gender neutrality - God I hate being PC) I have discussed this
with tell me it is entirely species dependant.  Fish like salmon and trout are most
affected by handling, scaly fish like pike, pickerel and bass the least.

I personally don't fish for the purpose of just catching fish.  However I do fish for
food.

Thank you for your clarification, I did not intend to be derisive.

MadPoodle_at_aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/24/98 3:32:30 AM, soverein_at_nanaimo.ark.com wrote:
>
> >but catch and release does not include leaving the hook in
>
>         Actually, yes it does. Unless you are using stainless hooks, the amount of
> time it takes a hook to rust out is very brief. Most if not all fishing groups
> recommend cutting the leader as close to the hook as possible. Seems the more
> you handle the fish, the more damage you do to it. Yanking the fish out of the
> water does internal damage, handling it removes some of the slime protecting
> its body.
>         However, having said that, I always try to remove the hook just in case..
> I usually bring the fish up to the side of the boat, yak, PWC or whatever I am
> fishing from, even my leg when wading the flats, and use my leatherman to
> remove the hook. Yes, even sharks can have the hook removed this way, but just
> not against my leg... I fish almost exclusively C n R, light tackle, and it is
> rare that I release a fish with a hook in it...
>
> Scott
>
> Closer to the Bay of Pigs 2nite



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