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From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:08:25 -0700 (MST)
On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Geo. Bergeron wrote:

>>
>>        My next piece of equipment is going to be a tent. I'm looking at the
>>REI Camp Hut, Half Dome, or they have a Kelty  Creekside 2 on sale. There's
>>a 4 person Camp Trails for cheap that is huge (96" X 96" X 57" height) and
>>not too heavy (9lbs). I can't decide whether to go for a larger tent (3 or 4
>>person for one person 95% of the time) or save some money and keep the cargo
>>weight down with a smaller two person. I'm assuming the better tents have
>>aluminum poles--or is that a weight thing? Because I'd be using it mostly
>>out of a boat, weight is not a big consideration.  The idea of having some
>>space to sit in out of the weather appeals. It might be nice to have a cot
>>in a tent with space to change clothes and then use the truck or kayak for
>>stowing food and gear. I've been known to camp without a boat. . . 
>>
>>        Any chance this is as hot a topic as ballast? 
>>

george,

i bought the 4man eureka timberline about 15 years ago. love it. a little
heavy for solo back-packing, but reasonable. good aluminum poles
[fiberglass break much easier ;-( !! worth the extra to have an extra
large tent, almost always!! i also cook in my tent occasionally, due to
bad weather, and the extra large tent helps quite a bit, you just have to
make sure you have good ventilation, or this could be extremely hazardous.

mark

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From: Michael Edelman <mje_at_mich.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Tents
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:42:33 -0500
I used a Eureka Caddis for many years, until a pack or crazed chipmunks chewed
through it on one trip to get at some food we forgot about and left in the tent.
(This is actually true.) I replaced it with a Marmot that has only had a brief
shakedown trip, but which seems to be a pretty sturdy affair.

I've seen lightweight, unguyed tents carwheeling across Lake Michigan in a storm
so I always guy tents and I always buy solid tents. When I went shopping last time
the point I put at the top of my list were (1) Polyester fly. Nylon weakens from
UV in sunlight; I had a nylon tent literally *dissolve* around me near Fransonia
Notch in 1976. (2) Taped seams. This is getting near-universal as more makers buy
the machinery needed. (3) Aluminum poles. Bought a tent with glass poles *once*
and soon gave it away. (4) Continuous pole sleeves. Some tents have these
interrupted sleeves that make assembly a nightmare. Get a tent that has a
combination of continuous sleeves and clips for where poles cross. (5) Long tents.
It's amazing how few tents let a 6'2" guy stretch out!

--mike
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