Re: [Paddlewise] Re[2]: What could have happened..

Jack_Martin_at_jtif.webfld.navy.mil wrote:
> 
>      Yeeeaah --- dunno, Ralph.  Poetic justice to tip them over --- maybe?
>      But don't drag <me> in on this one!  Even in shallows --- maybe more
>      <importantly> in the shallows --- somebody being sent into immediate
>      cold shock and then bumping or snagging on the bottom?  Sounds like
>      grounds for homicide to me --- and we need your sage wisdom on
>      bag-boats.  I mean, without you, who'd defend the sackakers?  'Course,
>      you'd have lots of time in a correctional facility to start your own
>      net!  Bags'r'us.com.
> 
>      But, seriously, that sounds like the equivalent of road rage to me.  I
>      liked your first response better --- before Sean and I apparently
>      spooled you up!
> 
>      Jack/Joq

Yeah, you are right.  It is just sometimes one feels like saying, "OK,
you want to paddle that way.  Fine.  Here is a taste of what it is like
if things go wrong!"

Sometimes people just never heed anything said to them.  That is why the
Cold Water workshops are important.  I have been in some situations in
which individuals don't have extra flotation in a big folding kayak. 
For example, the couple about mid-way in my book who I joined during
some lessons involving rescues.  I noted it, Bill Lozano the trainer
noted it. We smiled at each other because we knew what would happen
during the exercise of dumping the double folder.  It would fill to a
point that there would be no freeboard.  If we had just shoved airbags
in prior to the couple taking the lesson, they never would have accepted
what would happen to their wonderful Klepper when filled with water. 
Conditions were calm, mid-summer...so no damage except to their egos.

I grant you cold water is nothing to trifle with.  But I was in on
another situation where someone without cold water protection was
getting into a tippy boat and without a PFD on.  I was going to warn him
and said to myself screw that, let him learn.  Of course he tipped over
and got soaking wet.  We had lots of warm clothing to lend him and I
know that soon after he did buy one of those Henderson suits.  Nothing
like baptism by fire.

Of course, I would never do what I advised Jack to do. But sometimes it
awful tempting to help the learning lessons along a bit.  But anyway I
take back my suggestion.  Let them go off paddle that way with the kid
in the hatch and on to water that will kill them.  Do warn them.  But
then just paddle away or take your boat and go home.

ralph
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