RE: [Paddlewise] Carrying kayaks in a boat

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jack_Martin_at_jtif.webfld.navy.mil
> [SMTP:Jack_Martin_at_jtif.webfld.navy.mil]
> Sent:	Tuesday, March 10, 1998 6:37 AM
> To:	David Seng
> Subject:	Re: [Paddlewise] Carrying kayaks in a boat
> 
> >>Interesting problem.  For what it's worth --- and I suspect my 
>      suggestion is <not> going to be satisfactory...<<
>  snip of interesting idea
>      
> >> Getting more creative here, could you rig two long Yak bars 
>      (expensive) or two one inch steel pipes (cheap) athwartship ---
> using 
>      either Yakima "gutter" mounts locked down onto the "artificial
> gutter" 
>      plates that they sell (expensive but easily removed) or by less
> easily 
>      removed "U" bolts (cheaper but nuckle-scrapers) from below deck?
> Then 
>      you could add a set of TLC-type cradles forward and a set of 
>      Hully-Rollers aft, and relatively easily load the kayaks from the
> 
>      water by sliding the bow up over the aft Roller and securing both
> with 
>      the typical Yak (expensive) or jury-rigged (cheap) straps.<<
> 
> Ah, I think you've given me an idea - This is a beefy skiff, the
> gunwales are about 6 inches wide - I (a boatbuilder friend actually)
> can fabricate some aluminum inverted U-shaped brackets (designed to
> slip & clamp over the gunwales), weld 1" pipe to the "top" (closed
> side) of the brackets extending outboard the necessary distance, mount
> my normal Yakima cradles to the pipe, and strap the yaks in just as if
> they were on the roof rack.  This would allow easy on/off, and avoid
> the problem of having two long transverse supports running across the
> boat. 
> I like the idea of using one Hully Roller with a standard cradle.
> Just another reason to finally shell out the cash for the Hully Roller
> and recycle the old foam blocks that I've been using on the roof rack
> for the second kayak. 
>    
> >> You're not getting the kayaks suspended below rail level --- which
> I 
>      sensed was what you wanted --- but with a 16 foot skiff, do you
> have 
>      enough freeboard to safely carry the kayaks below deck level,
> anyway?<<
> 
> Didn't really want them below the gunwale line, sorry that wasn't
> clear.  Actually this skiff has about 28-30" of freeboard when it's
> loaded with a "normal" load - it's a custom design built by a fellow
> over in Sitka.
>      
>   >>If you like anything above --- and there's a lot of Rube Goldberg 
>      stuff here --- or even if you don't, could I ask a favor?  Some
> time 
>      when you're in Juneau, there's a great little bookstore up on one
> of 
>      the (relatively) main streets.  Would love to find out if the
> owner 
>      --- a really neat lady --- has any new books on Inuit paddles and
> 
>      paddling.<<
> 
> Not a problem - you're either talking about Hearthside Books - located
> about a 2 minute walk from my office or Rainbow Books (used books)
> across the street.  Any particular book you're looking for?  If I find
> anything I'll send you the info "off-line".  Downtown Juneau is pretty
> small.....
>      
> >>Good luck with your transportation issue --- would love to be in
> your 
>      shoes!<<
> 
> <G> Yeah, it's tough - gave up a nice career and took a 50% pay cut to
> move up here and I don't regret it for a second!!! 
>      
> Dave
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