> What is more difficult are the >biomechanical losses. John, Please comment, if you have time, on the following: Every motor has a torque-speed curve. At max torque, speed is zero, and therefore power is also zero. Likewise at max speed, torque is zero, and therefore power is again zero. Max power occurs somewhere in between. It is important to note that max efficiency does not generally occur at the speed for max power. In a kayak, the paddler is the motor. Changing the length of the paddle or the shape of the blade will change the point on the paddler's torque-speed curve. Every paddler has a different curve and must choose a paddle design that gives him either optimal power or optimal efficiency. Probably, a different design for each objective. With my 57 year old body, a long narrow paddle is most efficient over long distance. I stroke low, with relaxed shoulders and slow cadence, while getting most power from lower torso. I try to emulate the Greenland stroke taught by VanDoren in his video, but more slowly. On occasions (very rare) when I try to race a short distance (less than 1 mile), a shorter paddle with big blades and high stroke lets me get my shoulders into it and I can reach greater speed, but at a big cost in effort. I think that the significant energy loss in paddling is biomechanical, rather than losses due to inefficiencies in the paddle blade/ water interaction. (Assuming constant loss due to boat drag.) Further, the drag coefficient always appears multiplied by the area (I think), CdA. For a given Cd one does not necessarily want a larger A. Similarly, for a given A one does not necessarily want a larger Cd. Both move one to a different point on the torque-speed curve. It seems to me that the implication is that efficiency is not a property that is inherent to a particular paddle, but whether that paddle and the appropriate corresponding technique is matched to the paddler. Jerry *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sun Mar 29 1998 - 14:56:10 PST
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Thu Aug 21 2025 - 16:29:55 PDT