>> From: CHUCK_at_multitech.com (Chuck Holst) > Linda and I practiced resuing each other by carrying each other on each > others' kayaks. Much to my surprise, I found that my kayak was more > stable with Linda sitting up behind me with her legs in hte water than > when she was lying on my rear deck. However, she is smaller than me; when > she carried me, her kayak felt more unstable with me in either position. > In fact, we capsized once when I was lying on the deck. The most stable > position is with the rescuee hugging the bow, but of course the rescuee > is also immersed in that position. Which direction were you facing when hugging the bow and were your feet in the water then? It would seem to me that having feet in the water would help to stabilize by counterbalancing the weight above water, but whaddoIknow... I'm not an engineer :-) Maybe she should just get a tow rope, a harness and sponsons for you. :-) ************************************************************************** ************ I was facing upward with my arms wrapped around the bow and my feet on the foredeck. I understand that this is a preferred rescue technique in the BCU, and that it is often used to keep the rescuee safe and out of the way during TX rescues while the rescuer is emptying out the capsized kayak. ************************************************************************** ************* > A friend was having trouble with his hip snaps and rolls, so he tried a > Romany and I tried his Sea Lion. He rolled up in the Romany on his first > attempt, and exclaimed "Wow!" -- or words to that effect. It's the usual > reaction of someone rolling a Romany for the first time. My impression of > the Sea Lion -- I owned one years ago, but didn't have a roll then -- was > that it handled quite well when upright and turned very easily when > leaned, but was harder to roll or to keep on edge than the Romany. Once > the gunwale submerges, the kayak wants very strongly to keep on going, so > keeping it on edge while sculling takes much effort than with the Romany. > Also, it didn't help that the unpadded thigh braces were so far from my > thighs as to be no help. Does the Romany have chines? I can't remember the design. Cheers, Jackie ************************************************************************** ************ The Romany has a shallow V bottom, slab (flat, vertical) sides in the center section, and soft chines. Also, since the afterdeck is almost flat, the gunwale is higher than on a Sea Lion. The Romany also has a keyhole cockpit which, with the addition of 3/8-inch closed cell padding, gives me good thigh contact. People with large thighs feel pinched in the Romany, however, if they can fit in at all. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
We learned a rescue from the BCU guys called the 'curl rescue'. This is my take on it after one quick practice session (just yesterday, so it is still very fresh in my mind). It is supposed to be a good deep water/rough water rescue. As with any rescue having it demo'ed by someone who knows what they are doing really helps. This one seems worthy of merit. I was pretty wiped by the time we did this, and between the stuff on my PFD front and the stuff on my rescuer's deck I could not get up. (I have never failed to do this before ... I felt like a sea slug!) A third kayak came around to give me a way to push with my feet and I finally got in. This taught me some good lessons about deck clutter, PFD clutter, and fatigued paddler rescuing (the legs are often stronger than the arms :-). Here's how it goes: -The boat flips. -The rescuer grabs the flipped boat, orientation no matter, and holds on to it, pulling it parallel and alongside. (It is NOT upright) -The swimmer goes around to the front of the rescuer's boat (following their hull trying to obtain the security of the rescuer's boat's bowlines as quickly as possible) -The swimmer gives their paddle to the rescuer (if handy) and the two paddles are used together to help hold the boats together, spread across and braced/leaned on -The swimmer pulls themselves onto the foredeck (deck clutter is way bad here) perpendicular to the boat, torso balanced on the deck -The rescuer now has a firm handle on the swimmer if necessary -A chance to say "what ho" and when all is well, the swimmer flips their own boat over (the "curl", like curling weights) -Then the swimmer gets into their boat -Then this finished up like most, with pumping and sanity checking, and all of that. Some of the points on this one were: -keeping the boat unflipped in rough water, means you won't waste energy turing it over just to be swamped by waves -the swimmer is in view and more manageable Anyway, no one in the class knew this one, so I thought maybe others would find it interesting. jen -- Jennifer Joy SBC Technology Resources Austin,TX jjoy_at_tri.sbc.com 512.372.5517 fax:512.372.5591 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Jennifer Joy wrote: > > We learned a rescue from the BCU guys called the 'curl rescue'. This > is my take on it after one quick practice session (just yesterday, so > it is still very fresh in my mind). It is supposed to be a good deep > water/rough water rescue. As with any rescue having it demo'ed by > someone who knows what they are doing really helps. This one seems > worthy of merit. > > I was pretty wiped by the time we did this, and between the stuff on > my PFD front and the stuff on my rescuer's deck I could not get up. > (I have never failed to do this before ... I felt like a sea slug!) > A third kayak came around to give me a way to push with my feet and I > finally got in. This taught me some good lessons about deck > clutter, PFD clutter, and fatigued paddler rescuing (the legs are > often stronger than the arms :-). > > Here's how it goes: > -The boat flips. > -The rescuer grabs the flipped boat, orientation no matter, and holds > on to it, pulling it parallel and alongside. (It is NOT upright) > -The swimmer goes around to the front of the rescuer's boat > (following their hull trying to obtain the security of the rescuer's > boat's bowlines as quickly as possible) > -The swimmer gives their paddle to the rescuer (if handy) and the > two paddles are used together to help hold the boats together, spread > across and braced/leaned on > -The swimmer pulls themselves onto the foredeck (deck clutter is way bad here) > perpendicular to the boat, torso balanced on the deck > -The rescuer now has a firm handle on the swimmer if necessary > -A chance to say "what ho" and when all is well, the swimmer flips > their own boat over (the "curl", like curling weights) > -Then the swimmer gets into their boat > -Then this finished up like most, with pumping and sanity checking, and > all of that. > > Some of the points on this one were: > -keeping the boat unflipped in rough water, means you won't waste energy > turing it over just to be swamped by waves > -the swimmer is in view and more manageable > > Anyway, no one in the class knew this one, so I thought maybe others > would find it interesting. > > jen > > -- > Jennifer Joy SBC Technology Resources Austin,TX > jjoy_at_tri.sbc.com 512.372.5517 fax:512.372.5591 > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** Jen; I hope you enjoyed your BCU training up here in the Northwest. It's too bad I wasn't able to get up to Deception Pass and meet you. Our new baby has certainly complicated life. I suspect you met a number of my friends though. We did Star 5 training up at Cape Flattery Wed. and Thurs. (though I bagged out on Thursday - a cold caught up with me). We had a great time. The Curl rescue you learned is good for rough water and it is particularly well suited for boats like your Khatsalano S that do not have bulkheads. A note about your having trouble getting on your back deck (This is something I know a bit about, having managed to gain too much weight as of late.) Next time you have a chance try this: While in the water, grab the deck lines on your rear deck and extend your arms out and lower your head so that you can float your legs to the surface. From this position time your kick and upper body to lurch onto the back deck. The tendency is for people to get up close to the boat and, in preparation for climbing onto the deck, lift their heads as they put their arms over the deck. The result of this is that their legs sink and they are then forced into a vertical position from which it is really hard to climb up onto the boat, particularly if you are tired or if you have alot of junk on your deck/vest. If this is a new idea for you let me know if it works. By-the-way, how did you enjoy the BCU training? John Winskill *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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