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From: John Winters <735769_at_ican.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Group Dynamics thread revisited
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 07:41:54 -0500
Sam wrote;

(SNIP)
>Borrowing another cliche....learning when and how to "JUST SAY NO" may be
>just as essential a skill as paddling techniques and equipment.
>
(SNIP)

This is the most important skill anyone can develop. Richard raises a good
point about outside pressures to do something that  you might not normally
do. In conjunction with group pressures they form what I call  group
tyranny. We have all heard the stale jokes about Jewish mothers but guilt
is a powerful motivation. Fear is transient, guilt stays with us. It is the
fear of guilt that often compels us to act against out personal best
interest. How powerful is it? Ben Shalit surveyed soldiers to find out what
frightened them in war and it was not the death but of "letting others
down" they feared most.

It seem to me that this was at work for Diane. She knew better but still
tagged along with Trisha.

Richard wrote about clubs and their safety focus. Having been one of the
early members of the WCA I can still recall the arguments over the
"leader"/"organiser" thing while we were trying to define what the WCA
should be.

In substance I agree with Richard but I would like to offer another
possibility and that is that clubs need to define their role better.
Instead of being all things to all paddlers they might be better of to
narrowly define what they do and will do.

In the early days of the WCA many of us rejected the instructional format
in favour of learning in the exploratory mode. I still recall one trip
organised to learn how to pole a canoe. No one knew how to pole but people
went to learn how the "hard way": We started at a low challenge level and
worked our way up. We considered the spoon feeding of formal instruction
beneath us. One can argue the point over which is best (I feel both
methods, learn-by-doing and learn-through-instruction are valid for
specific people) but it seems to me that clubs that try to do both get into
trouble. The instruction people refuse to acknowledge anything that doesn't
grant a certificate and the  learn-by-doing people scoff at those who
didn't come up through the ranks.

I believe that one things we learned by doing it the hard way was to
acknowledge and respond appropriately to fear. This, I believe is something
the creditocracy method often neglects.









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From: Richard Culpeper <cul258_at_lawlab.law.uwo.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Group Dynamics thread revisited
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 19:35:43 -0500
John Winters wrote:
--snip--

> I believe that one things we learned by doing it the hard way was to
> acknowledge and respond appropriately to fear. This, I believe is
> something
> the creditocracy method often neglects.

--snip--

About four years back a fellow came to the Sudbury Canoe Club looking
for an internship (I can see where this post will be taken already).  He
needed to complete a practicum as part of his Outdoor Adventure
Leadership degree.  He said that he was certified by the Ontario Wild
Water Affiliation (OWWA) as an instructor.

To check him out, we brought him along with a novice trip on the
Ottawa.  To make a long story short, he swam eighteen times on the first
day, and wisely chose not to paddle the second day.  All the novices
together over the weekend only swam under half a dozen times.

For the drive home he was sharing a ride with one of the club's senior
instructors.  The last I saw of him before the drive, he was telling the
instructor (a petite woman) how to tie on the boats.  That evening I
received a call from the instructor complaining that this fellow had
been a back-seat driver for the entire five hour trip home.

I had a chat with the fellow later in the week, and learned that this
was his first time on wild water!  It turns out that the OWWA had
instituted a new series of hero-badges, including one which certifies
folks to instruct in a pool.  Needless to say, everyone at the club
(except for the instructor who had to put up with him on the drive) had
a good laugh over this, but we were also concerned that here was a
fellow who was running about collecting hero-badges as part of his
degree, and who hoped to gain professional employment based upon these
qualifications, but who had never bothered to put in a few years
"learning the hard way".  Big mistake on his part, and a bigger mistake
for anyone who trusts in hero-badges when hiring.

Richard Culpeper
www.geocities.com/~culpeper



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