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From: John Winters <735769_at_ican.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] [CPAKayaker] Sea Kayaking Condition Ratings
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:59:55 -0400
Larry Bliven found my post to CPA  on condition ratings.  He now gets a
complimentary bottle of Marynissen Cabernet Franc 1995.  Send me your
address and I will try to UPS it to you.

 Keep in mind that this was a work in progress and not perfect by any
means. It was just an attempt to develop a rational and easily used way to
rate conditions.
>
>this proves that i'm nuts, that disc space is cheap and that
>over a glass of wine, just about anyting is possible.
>
>bbb
>
>----------
>From: John Winters <jwinters_at_onlink.net>
>To: cpakayaker_at_frogmorton.shire.net
>Subject: [CPAKayaker] Sea Kayaking Condition Ratings
>Date: Sunday, July 20, 1997 9:40 AM
>
>I was giving some thought to the discussion on rating conditions for
skills
>and here is a rough rating that may be useful. Under each factor (wind
>speed etc.) I have put a numerical value. When all values are summed that
>can be compared to the required skill rating for that level of paddling
conditions. There may be some fomatting problems (spacing) so it might be
best to put the whole thing in a spread sheet to see how it should look.
>
>Wind  (Beaufort)
>
> 0-2 3 4 5 6
>0 2 4 16 50
>
>Distance from shore
>
>Swimmable 30 min 30 - 60 min 1- 4 hr 4+hours
>0 2 4 16 50
>
>Current
>
>0 - 1 1 - 2 2 - 3 3 - 4 4+
>0 1 2 4 16
>
>Rescue Proximity
>
>2 min 10 min 30 min None
>0 2 4 16
>
>Temperature (sum of air and water temps)
>
>120+ 120 - 110 110 - 100
>0 4 16
>
>Fetch (Nautical miles)
>
>1 or less 5 10 20+
>0 2 4 16
>
>Hazards
>
>Power boat traffic   4
>Night 16
>Shoals and surf 8
>Fog 8
>Extreme weather envir. 50
>
>The scale for Grades (I have arbitrarily used six)  with the numerical
>values might be;
>    1  2      3              4                           5
>                                   6
>0--3--6------13------------25-------------------------50------------------
--
>
>-------------------------------100
>
>Each class is roughly twice the previous. A sum of the parameters tells
one
>what the Grade is. Obviously some individual parameters put one directly
>into Grade 5 or above which I think is appropriate. I think this kind of
>system might make it easy to assign appropriate skills to each Grade. This
>is entirely of the top of my head and I would appreciate your comments.
>
>
>
>
>Cheers
>John Winters
>Redwing Designs
>Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft
>http://www.onlink.net/~jwinters
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From: <dldecker_at_mediaone.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] [CPAKayaker] Sea Kayaking Condition Ratings
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:28:29 -0400
At 07:59 AM 4/18/98 -0400, John Winters wrote:
>Larry Bliven found my post to CPA  on condition ratings.  He now gets a
>complimentary bottle of Marynissen Cabernet Franc 1995.  Send me your
>address and I will try to UPS it to you.


Knowing John he will probably only send you the bottle after he drank the
contents , of course!!!!

Dana

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From: Larry Bliven <foxhill_at_shore.intercom.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] [CPAKayaker] Sea Kayaking Condition Ratings
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:31:13 -0400
hey dana,

>Knowing John he will probably only send you the bottle after he drank the
contents , of course!!!!

very well put. offline i suggested to john that he wait until sometime when
we could enjoy the bottle together....
i hope that you happen to be there also...
the more the merrier... now am i talking about people or what?

maybe we can crash Ari's trip and enjoy some of that dried cooking, sounds
great... but stay way upwind!

bye bye bliven

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From: <dldecker_at_mediaone.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] [CPAKayaker] Sea Kayaking Condition Ratings
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:13:48 -0400
At 06:31 PM 4/20/98 -0400, Larry Bliven wrote:
>hey dana,
>
>>Knowing John he will probably only send you the bottle after he drank the
>contents , of course!!!!
>
>very well put. offline i suggested to john that he wait until sometime when
>we could enjoy the bottle together....
>i hope that you happen to be there also...
>the more the merrier... now am i talking about people or what?
>
>maybe we can crash Ari's trip and enjoy some of that dried cooking, sounds
>great... but stay way upwind!
>
>bye bye bliven
>


Count me in, have kayak will paddle

Dana

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From: John Winters <735769_at_ican.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] [CPAKayaker] Sea Kayaking Condition Ratings
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:47:52 -0400
Dana wrote;


>Knowing John he will probably only send you the bottle after he drank the
>contents , of course!!!!


Dana, that is a thoroughly reprehensible comment. HIC!!.

Cheers,
John Winters
Redwing Designs
Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft
http://home.ican.net/~735769/

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From: <dldecker_at_mediaone.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Condition Ratings aka empty bottle
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:11:30 -0400
At 07:47 AM 4/21/98 -0400, John Winters wrote:
>Dana wrote;
>
>
>>Knowing John he will probably only send you the bottle after he drank the
>>contents , of course!!!!
>
>
>Dana, that is a thoroughly reprehensible comment. HIC!!.
>
>Cheers,
>John Winters
>Redwing Designs
>Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft
>http://home.ican.net/~735769/
>


John
 I resemble that remark!! Sad but true

Dana

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