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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] FW: Judgement
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:29:43 -0500
>>
One of the best ways that I am aware of to speed the judgement learning
process along is to practice self rescues in rough, cold water.
>>

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I think one of the main reasons so many people fail to dress for the
water temperature is that they have spent very little time in cold water.   
Having suffered hyperventilation after spending just a few minutes upside   
down in cold water -- even though I was wearing a wetsuit the first time
and a drysuit the second -- I have a great deal of respect for what it
can do. Those who pride themselves on their ability to stay upright to
the extent that they choose T-shirts over wetsuits on a cold water, warm
air day, generally have no idea how hazardous the water can be.

I deliberately practice my rolls in the coldest water I can find. What is   
harder for someone living in the Twin Cities is finding big waves and   surf
to practice in.

Chuck Holst  
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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] FW: Judgement
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:44:32 -0400
> I deliberately practice my rolls in the coldest water I can find. What
> is   
> harder for someone living in the Twin Cities is finding big waves and
> surf
> to practice in.
> 
	How about having someone rock the boat to simulate waves while
you try to crawl back in?
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From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk_at_gsp.org>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] FW: Judgement
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:12:25 -0400
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 11:44:32AM -0400, Sisler, Clyde wrote:
> 	How about having someone rock the boat to simulate waves while
> you try to crawl back in?

I think his point was that he practices his roll so that he doesn't
come out of the boat in the first place.  (I do the same thing,
deliberately falling over repeatedly in some well-chosen spots so
that I can practice my roll in turbulence.  It works.)

---Rsk
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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] FW: Judgement
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:50:59 -0400
> I deliberately practice my rolls in the coldest water I can find. What
> is   
> harder for someone living in the Twin Cities is finding big waves and
> surf
> to practice in.
> 
	How about getting someone to rock the boat to simulate wave
action while you try to crawl back in?

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From: patrick.maun_at_duffy.com <patrick.maun_at_duffy.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] FW: Judgement
Date: 20 Apr 98 11:58:28 +0000
Sisler, Clyde wrote:
>	How about having someone rock the boat to simulate waves while
>you try to crawl back in?

Good idea Clyde. My friend David and I actually practiced something similar to this during our last pool session. I'd  hold on to the rudder and randomly try to flip him on either side. It seems like a good way to practice braces as well as rolling up after a surprise dunking. Also, it really gets the adrenaline going as you have no idea which way the boat is suddenly going to lurch. We'll probably do some more of this during the spring on our local practice lakes.  A good way to simulate waves is to get two people to raft up holding each others bows, then you just start to aggressively push the bows up and down in the water. This can actually create some sizable pool waves as the boats can displace quite a bit of water.  That should make re-entry and rolling move difficult.

-Patrick

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