>> On Apr 22, 10:24am, Bill Leonhardt wrote: >I have two older boats, polyethylene, with bow and stern grab loops which >is where I tie the bow and stern to the vehicle. These grab loops are held >by a plastic clamp block screwed into the boat. Since I have had occasion >to remove these screws, I am now aware that the screw threads in the boat >appear to be merely nuts that were inserted (probably hot) into the deck. > >What I'm trying to illustrate is that some grab loop attachments are not >all that strongly attached to the boat and, even though you are tying >these, say to your bumper, you may not be securing the boat as well as you >think. Hi all, What I do is to loop my rope around the kayak behind (for the bow, or ahead for the stern) of the hatch. This doesn't rely on the strength of the grab loops or their attachment to the hull. This also doesn't distort my kayak as much (it is plastic) since I don't have the same leverage as I would out at the ends. I suppose this doesn't help if you don't have hatches to hold the loop of rope from sliding toward the end of the boat. -- henry o_, _at_ >> ************************************************************************** * I use polyester (Dacron) bow and stern tie-down lines that have a permanent loop tied in the middle to minimize shifting of the kayaks. I push this loop through the toggle loop from behind, then around the toggle to serve as a backup should the loop come off the kayak. Then I slide the loop over the end of the kayak and use trucker's hitches to snug the ends of the line to carabiners under the bumper. Thus, the strain is on the deck of the kayak instead of the toggle loop. If the loop should slide off the end of the kayak, which hasn't happened yet, it is still fastened to the toggle. This technique obviously works best with kayaks that have upswept ends. Unlike nylon, polyester lines stay taut in the rain. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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