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From: Brian Heifner <bheifner_at_Rational.Com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Disposing of toilet paper.
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 09:19:06 -0700
>Each time one of us uses the "porta potty", we add a bit more litter on
>top of what's in there. TP goes into a separate, zip-lock baggie.  We
>started out each having our own pot, but it took up a lot of space in the
>hatches and poop is poop, so I got over my hang-up quickly.

Two different BC guide companies I have been out with, had us burn the
toilet paper. Is this not considered acceptable? It may not be in dry
areas where fire danger is a problem. What do you all think?

Brian.
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From: Jackie Fenton <jackie_at_intelenet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Disposing of toilet paper.
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:03:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Brian Heifner" <bheifner_at_Rational.Com>

> >Each time one of us uses the "porta potty", we add a bit more litter on
> >top of what's in there. TP goes into a separate, zip-lock baggie.  We
> >started out each having our own pot, but it took up a lot of space in the
> >hatches and poop is poop, so I got over my hang-up quickly.
> 
> Two different BC guide companies I have been out with, had us burn the
> toilet paper. Is this not considered acceptable? It may not be in dry
> areas where fire danger is a problem. What do you all think?

Just a word of caution about that, though...  if it's dry and windy or 
fire-hazard conditions, forget it.  I'm sure this sounds like a no-brainer
to most, but one of the biggest forest fires occurring in California was 
started by a woman attempting to be a good camper by burning her toilet 
paper.  Paper is more likely to send up hot ash when burned.

Cheers,

Jackie
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From: Philip Wylie <pjwylie_at_planet.eon.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Disposing of toilet paper.
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 18:22:51 -0600
I remember a movie a few years ago where a frustrated
and citified Los Angeles husband insisted on taking
his wife camping in the Sierras. Unfortunately they
didn't plan for the serious calls of nature and didn't
bring any toilet paper. "What shall I do said the timid
suburban housewife"? "Oh, that no problem honey" just
go of in the woods and use tree leaves" was the 
outdoors expert husband, eager to please and ameliorate
his wifes fears for him having forgot to bring the
toilet paper.

I guess the paramedics and ambulance had to be dispatched
to retrieve her because 'unbeknownst to her' she had
used poison Ivy leaves.  Aggggggggggh#^$%_at_(*&#!
 
Puts a whole new meaning to the seven year itch  %^)  %^)
You might find this in the CIA book of dirty tricks-
how to get even with someone (poison ivy juice on a toilet
seat?) For those who want to economize on spending money
on toilet paper I guess you could call this scratch and save? 

Jackie Fenton wrote:
> 
> > From: "Brian Heifner" <bheifner_at_Rational.Com>
> 
> > >Each time one of us uses the "porta potty", we add a bit more litter on
> > >top of what's in there. TP goes into a separate, zip-lock baggie.  We
> > >started out each having our own pot, but it took up a lot of space in the
> > >hatches and poop is poop, so I got over my hang-up quickly.
> >
> > Two different BC guide companies I have been out with, had us burn the
> > toilet paper. Is this not considered acceptable? It may not be in dry
> > areas where fire danger is a problem. What do you all think?
> 
> Just a word of caution about that, though...  if it's dry and windy or
> fire-hazard conditions, forget it.  I'm sure this sounds like a no-brainer
> to most, but one of the biggest forest fires occurring in California was
> started by a woman attempting to be a good camper by burning her toilet
> paper.  Paper is more likely to send up hot ash when burned.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jackie
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From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Disposing of toilet paper.
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:06:09 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Brian Heifner wrote:

>>
>>>Each time one of us uses the "porta potty", we add a bit more litter on
>>>top of what's in there. TP goes into a separate, zip-lock baggie.  We
>>>started out each having our own pot, but it took up a lot of space in the
>>>hatches and poop is poop, so I got over my hang-up quickly.
>>
>>Two different BC guide companies I have been out with, had us burn the
>>toilet paper. Is this not considered acceptable? It may not be in dry
>>areas where fire danger is a problem. What do you all think?
>>
>>Brian.

on our over nighters, we usually use a "burn can" for the tp. nothing more
than a coffee can with a lot of holes punched in it to let in lots of air,
so you can burn it in a contained area.

and as a side note, you have to be careful, as you ppoint out, the fire
danger. i'm on the local fire dept, and we had to respond to a tree fire
recently... it was [assumed] to be the result of a spark, lofting up to a
knothole in the tree, and smoldering. we pumped 2,000 gallons into the
tree [2 fire trucks worth], and thought it was out. the owner hooked up 2
garden hoses and ran them into two different holes, to ensure it wouldn't
re-light. these folks are not clueless either, as one of them is also on
the fire dept. the tree re-lit two days later...  you can't be careful
enough.

mark

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From: SG Scorpio <SGScorpio_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Disposing of toilet paper.
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:25:17 EDT
In a message dated 98-04-28 12:25:37 EDT, bheifner_at_Rational.Com writes:

<< 
 Two different BC guide companies I have been out with, had us burn the
 toilet paper. Is this not considered acceptable? It may not be in dry
 areas where fire danger is a problem. What do you all think?
<<
Burning in a campfire is appropriate if a fire is going.  If you burn *just*
the paper you may end up with *messy* ashes.  Sometimes the combination of
living outdoors and a change in menu can result in a change in the consistency
of your BM. < not to mention my famous Canjun Fish and garlic stew>  In a
fireless camp we just pack the ziplocked baggies out.  I have a drybag
dedicated to garbage.
Steve Scherrer
President ACKS

Alder Creek Kayak and Canoe
250 NE Tomahawk Island Dr.
Portland, Oregon   97217

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From: Hank Hays <lhays_at_canby.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Disposing of toilet paper.
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 16:47:35 -0700
At 10:03 AM 4/28/98 -0700, Jackie Fenton wrote:
>> Two different BC guide companies I have been out with, had us burn the
>> toilet paper. Is this not considered acceptable? It may not be in dry
>> areas where fire danger is a problem. What do you all think?
>
>Just a word of caution about that, though...  if it's dry and windy or 
>fire-hazard conditions, forget it.  I'm sure this sounds like a no-brainer
>to most, but one of the biggest forest fires occurring in California was 
>started by a woman attempting to be a good camper by burning her toilet 
>paper.  Paper is more likely to send up hot ash when burned.

I was on a Grand Canyon run in 1994, about a week after a backpacker burned
most of Deer Creek Valley down trying to burn TP.  Why'd it have to happen
to such a pretty area?  Sniff, sniff....

Hank Hays

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From: Brian Heifner <bheifner_at_Rational.Com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Disposing of toilet paper.
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 09:12:45 -0700
> Sometimes the combination of living outdoors and a change in menu
> can result in a change in the consistency of your BM. < not to
> mention my famous Canjun Fish and garlic stew>

Cajun Fish and garlic stew? You opened this up for a request for
recipes. (garlic stew????? umm, how long to lunch)

Brian.
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