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From: David Seng <David_at_wainet.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Spare Paddles
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:21:09 -0800
Bill Leonhardt wrote:

<snip>
I have seen many people carry a two-piece spare on the rear deck.  I
wonder
how hard it is to access this paddle when the need arises.  Do you swing
around and grab it yourself (maybe in conditions that were rough enough
for
you to loose or break your primary paddle) or do you expect a paddling
partner to get it out?  If the rear mounted spare is attached for easy
grabbing from the cockpit, will it be washed away by rough water?
<snip>

 I carry a spare paddle at all times, whether paddling in a group or
not.  I keep my two-piece on the aft deck securely bungied so that it
won't come out in the waves or the event that I somehow decide that I'm
tired of viewing the world from an upright position.  With both of my
kayaks it's possible to "loop" the bungie around the shaft for a much
tighter hold than merely slipping the paddles under the bungies. 
 The spare is there in the event that I break the main paddle - pretty
unlikely while actually on the water actively paddling - more likely
while on shore.  If I'm in water/wind so bad that it rips the paddle
from my hands I'll probably be taking a swim quite shortly (nothing to
brace with) so I don't worry too much about getting at the paddle from
the cockpit.  Even though I don't really anticipate breaking a paddle
while "underway", I _can_ get at both pieces and assemble them in just
about any conditions that i can stay upright in the boat in. Remember
too - a "broken" kayak paddle is still a "paddle" that can be used quite
effectively - I use something very similar in my canoe<g>.
 The issue of front deck/rear deck still has the same problem - how do
you "secure" the paddles in such a manner that they won't wash off, but
still be easily accessible?  
Whether front or rear mounted the key is practicing enough so that you
know that you can get at the paddles.

Dave

David Seng		/  david_at_wainet.com
Wostmann & Associates	/  phone - 907.586.6167
223 Seward St.		/  fax - 907.586.2996
Juneau, Alaska  99801

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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Spare Paddles
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:03:37 -0400
> I have seen many people carry a two-piece spare on the rear deck.  I
> wonder
> how hard it is to access this paddle when the need arises.  Do you
> swing
> around and grab it yourself (maybe in conditions that were rough
> enough for
> you to loose or break your primary paddle) or do you expect a paddling
> 
	IMHO, you are most likely to break your paddle while
entering/exiting your kayak and using your paddle to brace for
stability.  In that case you probably fell in the water so getting the
spare is not a problem, you just look kinda silly.  :-)  Unless you were
making a high braced eddy turn and wedged the blade between two rocks or
something like that, I don't see how else you could break a paddle that
was in good shape to start with.

	Again, IMHO, it is most likely you would lose your paddle after
a dump, in which case you'd be iin the water and accessing the spare
wouldn't be a problem either.  Of course you could just drop your paddle
and watch it float away, but then, that's what the paddle leash is for,
right?  :-).

	But what do I know?  This is just my second year.


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From: Julio MacWilliams <juliom_at_cisco.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Spare Paddles
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:28:17 -0700 (PDT)
Last Friday I lost my beautiful Greenland paddle; I used the storm
one to get back to shore.

I was practicing rolls where I thought it was deep enough. The wind
carried me away and all of the sudden, on roll, I sticked the paddle
on the mud. Trying to come up on the roll I pushed on it down which
pinned it even further into the mud. That paddle is now part of
the ad hoc ship wreck and boat gear museum that we have in the
SF south bay area.

Now, since I do not have the space/time to make another paddle, I
am forced to order one from Feathercraft with which I will have
to bear until I get some time and space to make a couple more paddles.

So yes, you can loose your paddle. In the past I have also broken an paddle,
but kept one side to go back to shore. Now, with my Greenland storm paddle
I am much safer. 

- Julio

> 
> > I have seen many people carry a two-piece spare on the rear deck.  I
> > wonder
> > how hard it is to access this paddle when the need arises.  Do you
> > swing
> > around and grab it yourself (maybe in conditions that were rough
> > enough for
> > you to loose or break your primary paddle) or do you expect a paddling
> > 
> 	IMHO, you are most likely to break your paddle while
> entering/exiting your kayak and using your paddle to brace for
> stability.  In that case you probably fell in the water so getting the
> spare is not a problem, you just look kinda silly.  :-)  Unless you were
> making a high braced eddy turn and wedged the blade between two rocks or
> something like that, I don't see how else you could break a paddle that
> was in good shape to start with.
> 
> 	Again, IMHO, it is most likely you would lose your paddle after
> a dump, in which case you'd be iin the water and accessing the spare
> wouldn't be a problem either.  Of course you could just drop your paddle
> and watch it float away, but then, that's what the paddle leash is for,
> right?  :-).
> 
> 	But what do I know?  This is just my second year.
> 
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From: Gregg Bolton <gsb_at_ime.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Spare Paddles
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 03:57:33 -5
On  7 Apr 98, Julio MacWilliams wrote:

> Last Friday I lost my beautiful Greenland paddle; I used the storm
> one to get back to shore.
> 
> Now, since I do not have the space/time to make another paddle, I am
> forced to order one from Feathercraft with which I will have to bear
> until I get some time and space to make a couple more paddles.

   First I will say I know nothing about what makes a good Greenland 
paddle or not, but I saw some really Beautiful paddles at a place 
called Malone of Maine - they MAKE some of the prettiest 
wooden paddles I have seen, and they are Quite inexpensive.  If you 
know that you want a feathercraft go for it, but you might want to 
check out these that Malone makes.

   I don't have the contact info immediately at my finger tips, but 
can get if you (or anyone else) is interested.
Gregg Bolton
gsb_at_ime.net
http://w3.ime.net/~gsb
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