[Paddlewise] D-Rings or ??? [Reply]

From: John Somers <somers_at_utmbrt.utmb.edu>
Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 14:07:40 -0500
Bill Leonhardt wrote:
	"So the question is, other than wedging things, how do you secure things
in your hatch compartments from shifting around?"

Bill, I have had pretty good results a couple of ways.
  One is with small plastic D-rings in small high-strength hard plastic
bases which are available from the Northwest River Systems catalog,
Nanthahala Outdoor Center catalog, and probably others. I bonded these
bases several places to the inside of the kayak hull using 3-M's 5200
Adhesive/Sealant, which is a  polysulfide (I think), available from West
Marine and other places. This required cleaning the base and the intended
spot on the glass composite hull with acetone (nasty stuff, avoid breathing
fumes, especially inside the hull).  Then I rolled the adhesive onto the
bottom of the base with a Q-tip stick to get a smooth, bubble-free coating
and pressed the coated base onto the cleaned, pre-marked spot on  the hull
(Don't forget to have the D-ring in place on its base before placing the
base on the hull!).  The 5200 has instructions about waiting 24 hours for
tack-free, then 72 hours for cure.  I had to tape some of the D-ring bases
in place to keep them from sliding down the inside of the hull, waited 3 or
4 days and removed the tape.
  I have had one base come off later, and that was one I left under
constant tension from a short bungee.  Turns out there was either some air
trapped in the adhesive or gasses released during curing that were unable
to escape, so that one had gaps in the bonding area. The D-rings I used are
about quarter-sized or smaller, and the bases about 1/2" wide by 1-1/2"
long. Also, in case you're not familiar with 5200, it can be messy.  It is
much clingier than silicone caulk, harder to clean up, cures to a hard
state, and forms a bond on fiberglass that as far as I know is essentially
permanent. Probably not the right adhesive for plastic boats.
	Cheaper solution for the underside of the kayak deck is to mirror the deck
fittings.  This will work for some deck fittings, not all.  I got fittings
identical to those on the deck, then some slightly longer stainless steel
screws to replace the original ones, and some small rubber o-rings to seal
between the under-deck fittings and their locknuts.  To make a better seal,
I also applied a small amount of silicone caulk to the fitting where it
seats against the hole through the deck.  Voila`, now several of my deck
fittings are matched by identical fittings on the underside of the deck.
	
	These things along with attached bungies or mesh have been especially
useful in the cockpit, both behind the seat and under the foredeck.  This
allows securing some things out of the way in places I don't want filled
with loose gear or inflated bags.
	I have also used the 5200 to bond some high-quality velcro strips beside
my seat.  You can put the mating velcro on a bailing pump or other
lightweight objects to keep them in place inside the kayak and eliminate
some deck clutter.
	
	Best wishes to all,
		John Somers

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