Dan wrote; >I have read the Wilde article, and as far as I can tell it does *not* >provide support for Robert Perkins' suspicions regarding safety. To be >specific, Bob wrote: (Large SNIP) I realise that Dr. Wilde did not address the specific aspect of training increasing risk taking in the article on my web site and that is why I suggested that interested parties also read Dr. Wilde's book which is published in its entirety on his personal web site. The important aspect of his theory is, " Risk homeostasis theory posits that people at any moment of time compare the amount of risk they perceive with their target level of risk and will adjust their behaviour to attempt to eliminate any discrepancies between the two." This is precisely what Robert's example provides. I.e. the skilled paddlers telling the novice that he/she can increase risk because of the added perceived safety of knowing how to roll. In his book Dr. Wilde uses two large scale and separate studies of driver education to show that one's increased belief in personal skills increases risk taking out of proportion to real risk. In both studies it was shown that students successfully completing driver's education courses had higher accident rates than those without any formal training. Wilde's premise is that the target risk is higher than the real risk, that people increase risk taking out of proportion to their real safety and that their increased perception of safety from both skills and technical devices is not consistent with the resultant real safety. He provides many other examples. He concludes that only improved attitudes toward risk can result in real increases in safety. Consider the difference between the comment Robert heard and this one. "If you learn to roll you will be safer should you ever accidentally get in over your head." The difference is that Robert's example revealed using rolling to enable increased risk as a priority rather than a method to reduce risk and increase safety. My comment focuses on being prepared for a mistake. Clearly there are no absolutes in risk assessment but there are rather clearly defined attitudes. There is the attitude that "I am better therefor I can take more chances" and there is "I am better therefor I have an added margin for error. This does not mean that one should not "raise the bar" but it does put the challenge in proper perspective when safety is the object. Consider this. Imagine real safety (as opposed to perceived safety) graphed as a smooth curve of risk increasing with the square of wind velocity as a base. Once the waves begin to break the level of risk no longer increases smoothly but jumps up a notch because breaking waves increase the chance of capsize. Now the curve continues up smoothly until one capsizes at which point the risk jumps up another notch because the level of risk is greater when the boat is upside down. If the paddler does a wet exit his risk jumps again and so on until he is separated from his boat at which point he is really in trouble. In other words risk is does not increase in a smooth uniform fashion but in great leaps depending upon circumstances. Are people are aware of the magnitude of risk as conditions worsen? How many paddlers know that the wind force increases with the square of velocity and that wave force increases with the fourth power of wave speed and that the stability of a boat at the crest of a breaking wave can diminish almost to zero? How many know how to relate that to their experience? I don't know but, based on my experience speaking to paddlers at symposiums, I suspect very few do. Robert said, > People like me who don't roll get criticised all the time and I > understand the reasons for that criticism. On the other hand, I have a > pretty good grasp of what conditions I can handle and what I can't. Risk > assessment is something I do before I start out into rough conditions. To > date I've had good luck finding an alternate route if my intended one seems > too risky. Also, I'm always prepared to "sit it out" if necessary. My > wife would prefer my coming home late to my not coming home at all--and I > agree with her. So long as the level of real risk is below Robert's level of perceived risk he is much safer than the person who can roll and is keen to take on more challenges that exceed his perceived risk. Robert right side up is already a leg up over another person with poorer judgement upside down. I disagree with Dave's comment that this discussion is not consistent with target risk theory. Target risk has to do with real risk, perceived risk and how we balance the benefits of an activity and the dangers. Our skills are part of that equation. Dr. Wilde does not suggest that people not learn proper skills or that safety devices be abandoned. What he suggests is that attitudes need modification for there to be a net increase in safety. Frank makes a valid point about rescue "Play" but Robert's example was not so much about play as attitudes toward risk. Richard's observations over his many years of instructing are also consistent with Dr. Wilde's premise. Robert's example is classic in that it reveals a skilled person suggesting to a novice paddler that learning to roll and increased risk go hand in hand when in reality risk should lag behind learning to roll or not increase at all. Even an experienced paddler like Dave takes risks that he shouldn't (nice to have you with us Dave :-)) Obviously we haven't learned yet what comes first and that, is Dr. Wilde's point. . 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