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From: Mattson, Timothy G <timothy.g.mattson_at_intel.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Boat reviews on-line?
Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 15:23:00 -0700
I am trying to more deeply grok the data Sea-kayaker 
provides in its boat reviews.  In particular, I am
trying to make sense of the KAPER output, and the 
Righting/Heeling moments.

I have a good background in physics, so I understand 
the science involved.  But I have problems relating how 
a boat feels to this data. 

What I would like to find is the KAPER data and the
Righting/Heeling moment curves for boats i know.  In
particular, the 

   Plastic Aquatera Sea Lion
   kevlar Seda Glider
   feathercraft Khatsalano

I can find some of this in back issues of sea kayaker,
but not all of it.  Do any of you have pointers I might
use to find this data on-line?

--Tim

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From: John Winters <735769_at_ican.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Boat reviews on-line?
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 08:19:28 -0400
Tim wrote;



>I am trying to more deeply grok the data Sea-kayaker
>provides in its boat reviews.  In particular, I am
>trying to make sense of the KAPER output, and the
>Righting/Heeling moments.
>
(SNIP)

Stability and resistance data are used in relation to boats one has
experienced. For instance, if you have paddled an XYZ kayak and like its
stability then any boat having similar stability will probably appeal to
you. If you have paddled a boat and know how it feels from a  resistance
standpoint then any boat with less resistance will probably feel faster and
vice versa. The numbers are only important in comparison to other boats.

One should not expect light bulbs to pop on when differences are small.

Also keep in mind that people are not reliable measuring devices and their
moods, physical health, experience, change in paddle, weather, companions
and a whole host of additional outside influences will affect ones
opinions.

Stability and performance data are only two pieces of information and
personal perceptions don't always agree with them.  Even though the data is
quite reliable (KAPER has been shown to be accurate within a range of +/-
5% which is quite good for such things) it still may not agree your
personal opinion.

Some basics.

Stability - The greater the area under the stability curve the better. This
is a measure of dynamic stability.
The greater the heel before the righting arm diminishes to zero the better.
This is called the "range of stability".
The greater the heel at which the righting arm peaks the better since this
is a good measure of what is called secondary stability.
The steeper the stability curve the higher the metacentric height and hence
the initial stability. High metacentric heights are associated with a quick
motion in waves and increased danger of capsize in beam breaking seas.

Resistance
The average sedentary North American can produce 0.07 hp for a protracted
period of time. A quick calculation (velocity in feet per second times lb.
resistance divided by 550) will reveal the hp at any given speed from the
resistance information. A weaker than average person will want a boat that
has low resistance at lower speeds so they can cruise more efficiently.
Stronger than average paddlers will want boats that are more efficient
(relatively lower resistance)  at higher speeds to take advantage of their
strength.

My web site has a fair amount of design information on it . There is  a
page devoted to KAPER (http://home.ican.net/~735769/kaper.htm  )and one to
general design information (http://home.ican.net/~735769/shape.htm )

These are non-commercial pages so you will not be inundated with a sales
pitch.

Cheers,
John Winters
Redwing Designs
Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft
http://home.ican.net/~735769/

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