On Thu, Jul 23, 1998 at 10:50:54AM -0400, Michael Neverdosky wrote: > Sometimes it is needed to get people to pay attention. Convincing arguments based on solid facts and sound reasoning do much better. Shouting at me tends to persuade me that you have nothing substantial to put forth, so you've resorting to screaming. It won't work. > But you have, again and again, by implication that racing technique is > best come hell or high water. I do not imply. Ever. I have clearly outlined my position, and it consists solely and entirely of the statements I have made. Any "implication" that you find in it is entirely fabricated -- by you -- and I feel no compunction to defend such a fictitious point of view. > Are you NOT a slalom racer? I am a slalom and downriver racer. > Did you not make a statement that nearly every important inovation of > recent years came from slalom racing? I made no such statement. If you believe I did, I invite you to go back through past messages, find it, and quote it verbatim. If you can do so, I will retract this statement. Otherwise... > If I am wrong of either of these points then I appologize. ...I await your apology. > Sorry but everyone has some bias. Perhaps, and perhaps not. But that is why solid arguments rest on the facts and the logic which connects them, and not on bias, prejudice, supposition, and wishful thinking. > But just running rivers is not training and practicing. It's not? Please explain. I think it's excellent training and practice, and in fact, it's *all* the training and practice that a great many paddlers ever do. It certainly seems to fulfill this function, as most of them get better as time passes. > I didn't notice that this was a 'whitewater' list. > Maybe that is another bias I need to keep in mind. I have made no claim that it is so. Its charter specifies paddling, but neither restricts it to {whitewater, flatwater, etc.] nor rules any of them out. > Are you saying that there is no technique that was deveolped by nonracers > that is being taught and is good? That IS your implication. Again: I do NOT imply. You have made that statement up out of thin air and falsely attributed to me. For the record, I have never said any such thing. ---Rsk Rich Kulawiec rsk_at_gsp.org *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Jul 23 1998 - 08:56:30 PDT
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