At 11:07 PM 7/29/98 -0400, you wrote: >One way around such a law is to contend that no "hunting" is occuring. It >would better be catagorized as a harvest. Hunting implies some difficulty >in finding or tracking the hunted animal, followed by stalking to approach >close enough to use your weapon. Since the whales being killed are used to >boats approaching and they are a resident herd whose whereabouts are well >known, no hunting is involved in the same way "hunting" is not used in >reference to the round up and slaughter of beef cattle. > >Just so long as you stay away when the are "hunting" there should be no >problem getting in close during a "harvest". >Nick > Problematizing the term "hunting" is a low form of Sophist rhetoric. This is like arguing that there is no "pre-meditation" because the murderer didn't have to think about what he/she was doing. "Hunting" is a statutory term, defined and regulated by law. Statutorily "the hunt" is underway the second the "hunting parties" leave their residence with the intention of engaging in a lawful hunt. "Hunters" are engaged in the hunt--for statutory purposes such as transporting firearms--even while they're standing in line at the local Safeway waiting to buy beer and jerky before heading to the boat. Here's an example: Oregon permits carry of concealed firearms "by licensed hunters and anglers while going to, engaged in, or returning from a hunting or fishing expedition." (the statute verbatim) According to the staff attorney for the Clackamas County Sheriff, the legal view is that ANY person with a firearm and a hunting license is engaged in a hunt. . . short of attending a PTA meeting. As I say again: I'm opposed to whaling. I'm very opposed to whaling. But you need to realize that you're dealing with Federal Indian Treaties and that the "feds" don't mess around with Sophist arguments such as, "They weren't actively seeking whales so they weren't 'hunting'." That argument will get you tossed in jail fast. Also, you're likely to lose your boat. I agree with your views, but your legal strategy will get you arrested, convicted, and sentenced. Trust me on this one. Getting caught up in the legal system really sucks. Just offhand I'd estimate you'd be charged with a misdemeanor, lose your boat, get sentenced to a week or two in jail, two years supervised probation, and court costs and fines will run you about $3,000. Legally you have no defense whatever. The state has the statutory authority to grant indian tribes hunting permits for Bald Eagles and whales if that's what it wants to do. Write your representatives and tell them how pissed off you are! I'll endorse that action forever. ______________________________ George Bergeron, Secretary '99 Oswego Heritage Council http://www.europa.com/~heritage/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Jul 30 1998 - 00:44:15 PDT
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