I haven't tried it, but a Duluth pack, depending on contents, can weigh 30 to 40 pounds, and the afterdeck on the newer Sealutions is much less flat than on the one I used to own. I use a (small) Duluth pack only for food. For portaging ease, my main pack is a Lowe Expedition internal frame pack. At the landing, I used to put on the pack, cinch up the hip belt nice and tight, then pick up the canoe and rest the carved portage yoke on the adjustment straps that go from the top of the shoulder straps to near the top of the pack. The canoe balanced there so well that I could walk with my hands in my pockets; and because of the hip belt, at least half the weight of the canoe was transferred from my shoulders to my hips. Despite the extra weight of the pack, it was actually more comfortable than carrying the canoe by itself. However, I haven't made a BWCAW trip since I had an operation for a ruptured disk a couple years ago. Chuck Holst -----Original Message----- From: Bob Washburn [mailto:whiterabbit_at_iw.edwpub.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 1:08 PM To: paddlewise Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Quetico Provincial Par Has anyone tried attaching the Duluth bag to the deck? Given the very flat waters and no currents of the area would the stability still acceptable? ,,, (o o) ==================oOO--(_)--OOo========================== Bob Washburn *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Balancing a curved yoke on the pack straps sounds a lot more comfortable than balancing it on the neck muscles. Since I tried one of the portage yokes with the two shoulder pads, I haven't gone back to the curved yokes, the difference in comfort is incredible. I've got an early October meeting in Minneapolis and it is looking more and more like my after meeting trip to BWCAW will be a solo. Piragis rents a plastic sea kayak, which for a three day excursion is probably better than trying to keep a solo canoe going in a straight line. I've taken Scout groups up two of the last three years so I'd like to see some of the quiet BWCAW everyone keeps talking about ;) The weather that time of year can be real iffy, but the bugs and crowds are gone so it should still be a great trip. ,,, (o o) ==================oOO--(_)--OOo========================== Bob Washburn whiterabbit_at_iw.edwpub.com or rwashbu_at_siue.edu The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. ========================================================= *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bob Washburn wrote [snip] >I've got an early October meeting in Minneapolis and it is looking more and >more like my after meeting trip to BWCAW will be a solo. Piragis rents a >plastic sea kayak, which for a three day excursion is probably better than >trying to keep a solo canoe going in a straight line. > It's easy to keep a solo canoe going in a straight line: use a double-bladed paddle. Bruce Winterbon bwinterb_at_intranet.ca http://intranet.ca:80/~bwinterb All states have laws to protect the rich from the poor. Few attempt the more difficult task of protecting the poor from the rich. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bruce Winterbon wrote: > > It's easy to keep a solo canoe going in a straight line: use a double-bladed > paddle. While you're at it, why not also add a rudder? Most flatwater cruising and marathon canoes are paddled from a sitting position with the feet set against a foot brace. It shouldn't be all that difficult to attach rotating rudder pedals to the foot brace (which would be superior to the sliding rudder pedals found on most kayaks). Then all you would need is a couple of rudder cables and a rudder assembly and you would have the ultimate in "cruise control". This would allow you to avoid using all of those pesky strokes. :-) The thing I like the most about canoeing is the elegance of the single-bladed paddle. Sure, kayaks are a bit more efficient, but it's easy to overstate the difference (assuming that one is willing to put in the time developing proper technique). I must admit, however, that as I become older and lazier I find myself increasingly in kayaks (both on flatwater and whitewater), as they are more forgiving of sloppy technique and do not require as much concentration. Maybe some day, when I am really old and decrepit, I will also start using a rudder. Dan Hagen Bellingham, Washington *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
One of the reasons I like a carved yoke is because it has a lower profile. (I think mine was made by an individual, so it might be different from yours; I got it from Ketter Canoeing.) Mine is a permanent part of my canoe, and I don't like the way pads -- at least, the ones favored by Cliff Jacobson -- protrude. However, I did pad mine slightly with 3/8-inch closed cell foam. I have had some wonderful trips in the BWCAW in early October. Love those cool, crisp, sunny days. Of course, the rain can be cold at that time of year, too! I remember one sunny morning on Lake Insula when we woke to find ice in the drinking water. We made pancakes for breakfast, but they cooled off so quickly on our aluminum plates that the butter wouldn't melt; so we sprinkled 151 proof rum over them and ignited it. Afterwards, though, I had a headache! Come to think of it, October would be a good time to go kayak camping on Saganaga, Seagull, Brule, Lake One, or the Moose Lake chain -- big lakes with road access where no portaging is required. Going through Ely, I would probably choose the Lake One chain. I remember putting in on the Kawishiwi River after dark one October evening, paddling through the winding channel to Lake One in the moonlight, sleeping under the stars on a small island, and waking to find frost on my sleeping bag. It has been a long time since I have been to Piragi's or eaten at the Chocolate Moose. I wonder if I could persuade Linda to go.... Chuck Holst -----Original Message----- From: Bob Washburn [mailto:whiterabbit_at_iw.edwpub.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 9:43 PM To: Chuck Holst; paddlewise Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Quetico Provincial Par Balancing a curved yoke on the pack straps sounds a lot more comfortable than balancing it on the neck muscles. Since I tried one of the portage yokes with the two shoulder pads, I haven't gone back to the curved yokes, the difference in comfort is incredible. I've got an early October meeting in Minneapolis and it is looking more and more like my after meeting trip to BWCAW will be a solo. Piragis rents a plastic sea kayak, which for a three day excursion is probably better than trying to keep a solo canoe going in a straight line. I've taken Scout groups up two of the last three years so I'd like to see some of the quiet BWCAW everyone keeps talking about ;) The weather that time of year can be real iffy, but the bugs and crowds are gone so it should still be a great trip. ,,, (o o) ==================oOO--(_)--OOo========================== Bob Washburn whiterabbit_at_iw.edwpub.com or rwashbu_at_siue.edu The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth. ========================================================= *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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