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From: Larry Bliven <foxhill_at_shore.intercom.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Sewer Tidal Wave
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 15:37:46 -0400
The Daily Times (Salisbury, Maryland USA), 1 Aug 98

page 3.

Bay Foundation's boat sinks

Baltimore (AP) - A Chesapeake Bay Foundation boat used for educational and
scientific trips sank in a heavy rainstorm.

Snow Goose, a 46-foot motor boat, "got swamped by a sewer tidal wave" as it
sat docked in a Baltimore marina Thursday night, foundation spokesman Mike
Shultz said. A witness told the foundation that a high wave, generated by
water moving past a nearby storm drain, washed over the boat and "took her
down within a minute," Shultz said Friday.

The 14-year old boat, which has been inspected by the Coast Guard and deemed
seaworthy, probably sank because ropes morring it to the dock didn't allow
it to rise above the wave, Schultz said.

Another boat was also damaged in the incident, he said.

===========================

i have read more than 1 book on waves and never seen the term *Sewer Tidal
Wave*.

think about this: rain, sewer tidal wave, 46 ft boat sinks in a marina?

are sewer waves frequent?
any paddlers familiar with *sewer tidal waves*?

25 yrs ago, an overnight storm sank an 20 ft research boat that i was using
on a creek by a nuclear power-plant... but i was not creative enough to come
up with the phase *nuclear tidal wave.*  The university didn't really
believe my tale of high winds.... but i swear it was true...

now then, *sewer tidal waves*.. sure nuff !... but only in Baltimore.

bye bye bliven


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From: John Winters <735769_at_ican.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sewer Tidal Wave
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 08:20:21 -0400
Larry wrote;

(SNIP)

>are sewer waves frequent?
>any paddlers familiar with *sewer tidal waves*?
>
>

Sewer waves (Sewernami?) are common. The cause is simple enough. Cities
have huge areas of paving that funnels water into the storm sewer systems.
Heavy downpours overload the system and out it comes in a rush. Not unlike
the effect of clear cutting on rivers although considerably more
concentrated.

Here in southern Ontario where landowners have been restricting use of
traditional portages and essentially cutting off access to whitewater
rivers we were forced to find an alternative. The alternative was the storm
sewer system in Toronto. A few of the Wilderness Canoe Associations more
daring members ran the Bathurst Street sewer in 1992 and have since run
sewers in many other cities. We named our group the WCA Sewer Surfers. For
a few years we advertised out rips in the WCA newsletter (Nastawgan) but
complaints about the dangers and questionable legality of the practice
forced us underground.

People who know little about sewers do not know that there are two systems
under most cities. A sanitary sewer system that carries everything that
gets flushed down the toilet and storm sewers that carry the runoff from
streets etc.

Even so we still take advantage of spring run-off and the occasional heavy
rain storms to do some quick runs down to the harbour where one can get a
thrill popping out on the chute.

 Sewer surfing is dangerous and one should not attempt it without
thoroughly studying the system. Some sewers have steep vertical drops and
the turbulence at sewer intersections effectively mimics a washing machine.
Practised with proper precautions I believe it no more dangerous normal
whitewater paddling. The greatest danger is when the overload causes mixing
with the sanitary sewer system. Also dangerous is paddling after prolonged
drought. Then oil and such from streets are flushed down in high
concentrations. While drowned cats and dogs are frequently  encountered
only once has anyone encountered a drowned human and then they were of
great service to the police in solving a murder since they where the body
came from.

Cheers,
John Winters
Redwing Designs
Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft
http://home.ican.net/~735769/

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From: Brian Heifner <bheifner_at_Rational.Com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sewer Tidal Wave
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:20:02 -0700
>From recent posts I am sure that John Winters can relate
some tales of surfing giant sewer waves!

Brian.

;-)
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From: Nick Schade <schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sewer Tidal Wave
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:55:59 -0400
At 3:37 PM -0400 8/1/98, Larry Bliven wrote:

>are sewer waves frequent?
>any paddlers familiar with *sewer tidal waves*?
>

I believe they are known to happen during halftime of the Super Bowl.



Nick Schade
Guillemot Kayaks
c/o Newfound Woodworks, 67 Danforth Brook Rd, Bristol, NH 03222
(603) 744-6872

Schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/

>>>>"It's not just Art, It's a Craft!"<<<<


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From: Hank Hays <lhays_at_canby.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sewer Tidal Wave
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 12:39:19 -0700
>At 3:37 PM -0400 8/1/98, Larry Bliven wrote:
>
>>are sewer waves frequent?
>>any paddlers familiar with *sewer tidal waves*?
>>
Nick Schade commented:
>I believe they are known to happen during halftime of the Super Bowl.

I've heard that John Winters' paddle and boat test tank has been known to
generate a few.  Only recently was it was proved that the tank itself was a
recycled water closet.  Not an ugly rumor any longer....

Hank Hays
Lightning Paddles, Inc. 

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From: <WILAX_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Sewer Tidal Wave
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:32:23 EDT
Remember the TY-D-BOWL guy.  He was the grand kahoona of sewer yaking.  Is he
still around?
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