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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Canadian camping fees
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:19:34 -0500
> I have tried to obtain information about Canadian Marine Parks... I     have
> written, and received no response... I have called LD to the park     office,
> and all I got was a recording.  I don't remember if I reached a machine
> that would take a message, but I couldn't get any response from them
> whatsoever.
>
> Robert
>
> >Next year, Parks expects to extract CDN$ 10/person/night for visitors
> >(to a max of $60/head, I believe).  I do not see Parks providing much
> >return for that fee.  What do others think?
> >
> > --
>
>     I think extract is the right word. An alternative word might be
extortion. But in Oregon, the forest service charges $3 to go for a
hike in the woods (taking a pee is extra).
       Brad

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I think the fee in Ontario applies only to nonresidents, which would
make it a tourist tax. On the north shore of Lake Superior, the money
would be better spent on the local economy, which really needs it.
Linda and I are thinking of paddling from Silver Islet to Rossport next
year, a trip which might take ten days. At CDN$ 10/person/night, that's
$200 less for us to spend on lodging and meals before we put in and
after we take out (which is what we did last week). We are also
thinking of hiring the local outfitter to shuttle us.

Chuck Holst

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As an addendum, I just searched the Web and found only two pages with
information about camping fees on Crown lands. Basically, they apply
throughout Canada, and they are charged only to nonresidents who do not
use Canadian outfitters. If you use a Canadian outfitter, the fee is
waived. That pretty much explains the purpose of the fee: It is an
attempt to force Americans to use Canadian outfitters instead of
bringing their own food or gear. I found nothing about a maximum amount
that can be charged. So I guess if we arrange a shuttle with Superior
Outfitters next year we won't be required to pay for the permit.

I had forgotten about the waiver, and also about one Canadian outfitter
who helps Americans get around the permit fee by buying their tents or
sleeping bags from them and then selling or renting them back for a
dollar! I wonder if you have to declare your gear when you recross the
border...

..which reminds me of the time the American customs agent at the
Pigeon River border crossing queried me closely about where we had
bought our kayaks even though Minnesota registration stickers were
plainly displayed on their bows!

Chuck Holst  
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From: wayne steffens <wsteffen_at_skypoint.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Canadian camping fees
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 17:10:03 -0500
At 03:19 PM 9/1/98 -0500, Chuck Holst wrote:
 >..which reminds me of the time the American customs agent at the
>Pigeon River border crossing queried me closely about where we had
>bought our kayaks even though Minnesota registration stickers were
>plainly displayed on their bows!


Next time they do that, throw Reg. # 8903990500 at them. It doesnt matter
where you bought your kayaks.

Wayne
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