After a quick dejanews search: Someone advocating leaning back versus tucking forward. FWIW, Corran Addison is a whitewater rodeo paddler. ---------------------------- Author: Corran Addison Email: ripint_at_total.net Date: 1997/07/16 Forums: rec.boats.paddle ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Paul Skoczylas wrote: > > RJD9999 wrote: > > This is why lying back toward the rear deck > > makes rolling easier > > It also exposes your face to the rocks. Leaning forward is much safer > in shallow/rocky water. (Also, you're in a better position to resume > paddling when you come up.) OK, lets look at this. Lean back exposes your face. Hummm. A smack in the teeth, maybe a few scars, broken nose. Not much fun. Whats the alternative. Leaning forward. Expose the spint between the top of the life jacket and the helmet - C1 through L5. Can you say Christofer Reeve? Not nearly as appealing as losing a few teeth is it. IHO, the last thing you want to do is lean forward in a flip in shallow =water. Leaning back accomplisheds three things. Firstly, it exposes your face rather than your spine to any impacts. Secondly, as you set up to roll from this position, your forearms and paddle shaft natrally get between you and any offensive rocks, and almost always take the blow. Lastly, with your eyes open in this position, you can see the rocks comming, and if necessary, let go of the paddle and fend them off. From the forward lean, your only option is to take what is dealt like a man. That's not so cool. > > I learned to roll leaning back, but have since trained myself to come up > forward. (And I'm horribly inflexible--on a good day I can maybe reach > -with straight legs- a couple of inches past my knees, nowhere near my > toes.) I role from the back deck to the front deck on a reverse sweep (what people here call the Addison which means about as much as calling a front sweep role the Spellius, but I guess some people do... so anyway...). This is very effective, super fast because ther is no setup - you role from whever you landed - and when you are up, your paddle is natrally in the position to right into a forward stroke, which most of the time is the necessary thing to do. Just my 2c worth. corran *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I wasn't questioning what Addison does, just how it seems it would work in a different situation...a sand bottom, as the original post was discussing. As was said in a later post, and as I was saying, I (and apparently others) can't do this particular roll, especially when the only thing in the water is me--boat's on top, out of the water, holding me under. I'd rather have the boat beating me in the face than trying to snap my lower back. I'd lean forward, as some of the earlier replies suggested, in the conditions originally posted (sea kayak, waves over shallow sand bottom). Even if I was strong enough to do the push up mentioned earlier. I used to be able to do pretty much any roll from any postion in a ww boat. Not practicing and losing fitness/strength has robbed me of the skills. My loss. Wynne Americus, GA At 05:28 PM 9/21/98 -0700, Kirk wrote: > >After a quick dejanews search: >Someone advocating leaning back versus tucking forward. FWIW, Corran >Addison is >a whitewater rodeo paddler. > >---------------------------- >Author: Corran Addison >Email: ripint_at_total.net >Date: 1997/07/16 >Forums: rec.boats.paddle > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- > >Paul Skoczylas wrote: >> >> RJD9999 wrote: >> > This is why lying back toward the rear deck >> > makes rolling easier >> >> It also exposes your face to the rocks. Leaning forward is much safer >> in shallow/rocky water. (Also, you're in a better position to resume >> paddling when you come up.) > >OK, lets look at this. Lean back exposes your face. Hummm. A smack in >the teeth, maybe a few scars, broken nose. Not much fun. Whats the >alternative. Leaning forward. Expose the spint between the top of the >life jacket and the helmet - C1 through L5. Can you say Christofer >Reeve? Not nearly as appealing as losing a few teeth is it. > >IHO, the last thing you want to do is lean forward in a flip in shallow >=water. Leaning back accomplisheds three things. Firstly, it exposes >your face rather than your spine to any impacts. Secondly, as you >set up to roll from this position, your forearms and paddle shaft >natrally get between you and any offensive rocks, and almost always >take the blow. Lastly, with your eyes open in this position, you can see >the rocks comming, and if necessary, let go of the paddle and fend them >off. From the forward lean, your only option is to take what is dealt >like a man. That's not so cool. >> >> I learned to roll leaning back, but have since trained myself to come up >> forward. (And I'm horribly inflexible--on a good day I can maybe reach >> -with straight legs- a couple of inches past my knees, nowhere near my >> toes.) > >I role from the back deck to the front deck on a reverse sweep (what >people here call the Addison which means about as much as calling a >front sweep role the Spellius, but I guess some people do... so >anyway...). This is very effective, super fast because ther is no setup >- you role from whever you landed - and when you are up, your paddle is >natrally in the position to right into a forward stroke, which most of >the time is the necessary thing to do. > >Just my 2c worth. > >corran > > >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*************************************************************************** > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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