Re: [Paddlewise] FW: Speed and short boats

From: Nick Schade <schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:42:44 -0400
At 10:15 AM -0700 10/13/98, K. Whilden wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, John Lull wrote:
>
>>
>> Dan pointed out that even whitewater kayaks can be paddled at 3 to 4
>> knots.  And of course they are very maneuverable; however they require
>> considerably more effort to paddle on the open sea than a boat like the
>> Coaster.  Anyone who doubts this should get out on a stormy day in their
>> rodeo boat (or even a Dancer) and try paddling a few miles!  In a
>> Coaster you would be having fun (assuming you have the skills to paddle
>> storm seas); in the whitewater river kayak, you'd be cursing.
>>
>> John Lull
>
>So why exactly do whitewater kayaks require more effort? I confess to
>never having paddled a river boat in rough ocean conditions. Is it
>tracking? Whitewater kayaks have no tracking, however course corrections
>are effortless as a result, so a paddler on top of technique should have
>no trouble keeping on course. At least, this is what I have always
>suspected, but have never tested personally. Is it lack of speed?
>Whitewater kayaks are significantly slower than even a coaster at
>reasonable amounts of paddling effort. Also waterline length plays a
>relatively much greater role when trying to catch windwaves than in simple
>straight line paddling (ask me about my experience at Skookumchuk). Is it
>volume distribution? The bows of whitewater kayaks are made for punching
>through holes and stopper waves, but there is nothing like this in the
>average sea condtions that I think John is referring to. So I would guess
>that a whitewater kayak would provide a very wet ride whereas the coast
>has a high volume, anti-pearl bow for riding over waves, not through them.

My complaint when paddling a WW boat on open water has had more to do with
comfort than anything else. Just paddling straight ahead can get hard on
the back. I can last alot longer in the same boat on a river because I am
doing more different things other than just paddling straight ahead.
Leaning back and surfing a wave is easier than continuous paddling. A sea
kayak is generally fitted to be more comfortable.

I don't find it hard to keep the boat going straight. If I stop paddling a
WW boat will swing off course and slow down more quickly, but not enough to
bother me. I do find my natural paddling cadence keeps me pretty much near
the top speed of my WW boat and I would probably be more efficient paddling
at a lower speed. But when I do, I tend to start slouching backwards which
again is not very comfortable.



Nick Schade
Guillemot Kayaks
c/o Newfound Woodworks, 67 Danforth Brook Rd, Bristol, NH 03222
(603) 744-6167

Schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/

>>>>"It's not just Art, It's a Craft!"<<<<


***************************************************************************
PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List
Submissions:     paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
Subscriptions:   paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net
Website:         http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/
***************************************************************************
Received on Tue Oct 13 1998 - 11:37:12 PDT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Thu Aug 21 2025 - 16:30:00 PDT