Math has never been my strong skill, so work with me here. I've participated in various discussions about wetsuits and layering, and I'm concerned, as we in the mid-Atlantic get into the transition months where cold water protection is needed but drysuits might be overkill, that I don't get the math! Specifically, is it the opinion of members of the list that layering a two mil thick vest and a pair of rodeo shorts --- and let's use neoprene and not the new Malden fabrics for the sake of argument --- over a two mil longjohn yields the protection of a four mil wetsuit in the core body areas? I had always accepted the idea that it did --- but then I started thinking about the way these things work. When we swim, roll, low-brace, etc., water replaces the air between the suit and the body whenever and wherever it can inside the base layer longjohn. Physics is physics. The process continues until the air is fully replaced by the water --- let's say for a swimming kayaker --- and, unless the suit is loose or is exercised in to a significant degree, the water will not flush in and out of the suit a great deal, is warmed by the body, and a possibly degraded but relatively stable body temperature can be achieved, with the body continuing to produce heat to warm and hopefully stabilize the water inside the suit. The neoprene longjohn now acts (1) as an insulator from the outside colder water mass which would otherwise quickly suck all the heat from the body and (2) as a tight barrier, keeping a heat-stabilized water mass of a minimum size against the skin. But what about that second two mil vest and shorts over the longjohn. The ambient temperature (cold) water replaces the air between the neoprene layers but, unlike the layer next to the skin, there is no direct contact with the body to warm this water layer. If the baseline longjohn is thermally efficient, body heat should not be transferred through the neoprene's insulating layer; obviously, the insulating powers of two mil neoprene are limited, so some amount of heat will escape, potentially be captured by the water between the two layers of neoprene, and, in turn, be insulated from the outside water mass by the second layer of neoprene. But does this second layer have anything close to the same insulating capability as the first? Seems to me it's very unlikely that there could be any measurable increase in thermal efficiency from the vest and shorts over the thermal efficiency provided by the longjohn. Having always accepted that there <was> a value in layering neoprene, I'm now concerned that the idea was bogus all along. So, does two plus two really equal four? Or does it equal two point one five? Or three? I'm pretty sure it's not anywhere close to four! This isn't an idle question --- it's getting colder on the Chesapeake. I've been working with a premise that I now think is flawed. This isn't an idle how-many- angels-can-stand-on-a-pinhead question --- nor is it designed to fill the current information vacuum on PaddleWise. Any thermal engineers out there? Divers? Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Oct 29 1998 - 03:10:53 PST
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