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From: <Jeanine_Langvik_at_moh.govt.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Fishing
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:32:12 +1200
Re fishing from kayaks.... Has anyone (fishermen and women) got any good
tips on how to fish  successfully from a seakayak, (ie without doing stupid
things like losing the fishing rod, getting constantly tangled up in
seaweed, catching inedible fish like baracudas... etc etc). We're planning
an extended kayak trip in remote areas of Fiordland, New Zealand, and would
be really keen to get better at catching those fish!

Happy paddling
Jeanine
Wellington, NZ




Strosaker_at_aol.com on 08/10/98 14:05:24

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Subject:  [Paddlewise] So Cal Kayak Fishing




Kayak Fishermen:

I'll be hosting a kayak fishing day for California Kayak Friends on
Saturday,
October 10, 1998 at Dana Point Harbor, California.  If you love kayak
fishing,
then come on down!  Meet at Baby Beach in Dana Point Harbor at 8:00am,
launch
at 9:00am, kayak fish along the coast, and meet back at Baby Beach for a
potluck lunch at 1:00pm.  Only for at least intermediate kayakers with open
ocean experience and self rescue skills.  You do not have to be a member of
the club.  Let's catch some fish!

Duane Strosaker
714-730-5871
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Fishing
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 21:29:34 -0700
Jeanine_Langvik_at_moh.govt.nz wrote:
> 
> Re fishing from kayaks.... Has anyone (fishermen and women) got any good
> tips on how to fish  successfully from a seakayak, (ie without doing stupid
> things like losing the fishing rod, getting constantly tangled up in
> seaweed, catching inedible fish like baracudas... etc etc). We're planning
> an extended kayak trip in remote areas of Fiordland, New Zealand, and would
> be really keen to get better at catching those fish!

Use a short "boat rod," max length 6 - 7 feet, with a casting reel --
Penn makes good ones -- not a spinning reel.  Equip it with 30 lb test
monofilament. Purists will go for light tackle and a spinning reel.  I
assume you want meat, not sport.

Buy a dozen "plastic worms," favoring dark colors with metal-flake in
them, and a half-dozen "bottom-fishing lead-headed jigs."  These things
have the hook molded right in with the lead, and come in sizes from 1/2
ounce on up.  I use 1 oz, 1.5 oz., 2 oz.,  and 3 oz., depending on how
much weight is needed to get down. Thread the worm head first onto the
hook, leaving the curved and pointed part of the hook exposed, and the
tail of the worm dangling seductively.  These arrangments are way
cheaper than pre-manufactured lures like the buzz bomb.  And it's a good
thing, 'cause bottom-fishing involves lots of lost lures.

To catch fish, select water 30 - 50 feet deep (you can fish as deep as
100 feet, but it is a lot more work) and allow the worm-equipped jig to
hit the bottom.  Set the drag, and reel in slightly, so you can feel the
jig hit the bottom (line will go slack).  Bounce the lure on the bottom,
using a "jigging" motion, and haul like hell when you feel a fish hit
the lure (they are not subtle).  Only keep the big ones.  (Use long-nose
pliers to release the hook, because the spines on fish will make nasty
puncture wounds.)  There is not much meat on small (young) bottom fish,
especially if you do not know how to use a fillet knife.

The best fishing is in rocky-bottomed channels in which the current runs
during flood and ebb, though it is very difficult to fish on the bottom
in even weak currents (1 knot is tough; 1.5 knots or greater is
impossible without a downrigger).

NZ bottom fish are probably similar to those in our (cold) waters up
here, but check with the NZ fish and game people for species/size
limits, and for species which might be poisonous or inedible.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Andree Hurley <ahurley_at_viewit.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Fishing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:33:06 -0700 (PDT)
Geez, I have a lot of good stories from fishing in Kleppers from my Baja 
days. We would basically troll all day, focus on casting near points,
and often buy from the locals!

But...I finally have a folding net to use to get them in the boat. I
secure the rod under my leg or a bungy while I do the dirty work of
killing it - I like the knife method the best as it seems quick and
whatnot. 

Then of course you have to store it somehow. I've seen in the boat,
dangling from the side by strings through the gills, and in bags over
board (sharks?).

I did catch a big trigger fish one day (food is food!) and after doing
all the dirty work went to get the rod and lo-and-behold it had slipped
out from under my leg and disappeared. I was particularly bummed as my
boss had just gotten me a new reel. When I got back to shore it was made 
more apparent when one of my clients joked "wow, how much did that
cost?"

Andree

PS Some baracudas are ok! 
Baja had two kinds...


On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 Jeanine_Langvik_at_moh.govt.nz wrote:

> Re fishing from kayaks.... Has anyone (fishermen and women) got any good
> tips on how to fish  successfully from a seakayak, (ie without doing stupid
> things like losing the fishing rod, getting constantly tangled up in
> seaweed, catching inedible fish like baracudas... etc etc). We're planning
> an extended kayak trip in remote areas of Fiordland, New Zealand, and would
> be really keen to get better at catching those fish!

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From: R. Walker <rww_at_mailbox.neosoft.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Fishing
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:33:56 -0500
> Re fishing from kayaks.... Has anyone (fishermen and women) got any good
> tips on how to fish  successfully from a seakayak, (ie without doing stupid
> things like losing the fishing rod, getting constantly tangled up in
> seaweed, catching inedible fish like baracudas... etc etc). We're planning
> an extended kayak trip in remote areas of Fiordland, New Zealand, and would
> be really keen to get better at catching those fish!

Trolling is of course the easy way.  Its almost like kayaks were 
designed specifically for trolling.  Your typical 3kt paddling speed is 
just about perfect for many species.   My current setup is a stiff, 
half rod (50cm) that is from a rod I snapped off earlier this spring.  I 
got a cheap trolling reel at ebay [$8US].   I loaded it with 150 yds 
of 50# dacron trolling line, ending with a ball bearing swivel, and a 
chunk of 300# Jinkai monofiliment.  Sound wierd?   Not really.  My 
biggest problem is that most of the good spots to fish are in 2-3 ft 
of water, with oyster shell on the bottom.   I get snags all the time.  
On my old setup with a simple 20# mono casting rig, I spent all my 
time dragging a line with no lure, since the lure had snagged, and 
cut off by the oyster shell.   This new setup has a light drag, and 
no possibility of being cut off.  Now with a snag, the lure just stops, 
the reel goes clickity-clickity, and I turn around and retrieve it.  
Given the water, I fish various floating lures, typically mullet 
imitations, and preferably ones that I can take off bent hooks and 
replace with new sharp ones without buy a new lure.

For sporty fun, fly fishing is hard to beat.

For those here in the states, "Sport Fishing" magazine has an 
article on fishing from a kayak. 

And finally, the most productive way of fishing from a kayak, is in 
the water with a speargun; which is what I'm learning how to do at 
the moment.



Richard Walker
Houston, TX
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