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From: John C. Winskill <johncw_at_narrows.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Koklatat Bibs
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:36:32 -0800
They will let in a little water but not much.  I have Gortex uppers and
lowers and they do quite well.  I also have a full Gortex dry suit.  The
great advantage of the two-piece suit is that it can be compacted in a
dry bag and stowed in the kayak and the uppers and lowers can be pulled
out as needed. (I have a relief zipper in the bibs but it has never been
affected by the packing.
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From: Tom Dittrich <TDittrich_at_HomeATM.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Koklatat Bibs
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:48:09 -0500
	I bought my first dry suit this fall:  two-piece Koklatat.  The
top is Gortex and the bottom is nylon.  I felt that this combo gave me
the most versatility in that I could wear just the top on days when the
water is chilly but the air is warm.  Plus buying nylon bottoms helped
keep the overall price down.  However, the nylon bottoms collect a lot
of sweat on warmer days.  Some people might find that uncomfortable.  If
money is no object, go for the Gortex.

	Rolling the two tunnels together to form the seal is not
difficult, if you can reach behind your back comfortably, but it does
take a little time.  I have not been fully immersed in the suit, so I
don't know how water tight it is, but I suspect there would be minimal
leakage at best.


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> Subject:	[Paddlewise] Koklatat Bibs
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> Has anyone in the group tried the Koklatat "bibs" in combination with
> the Koklatat dry top? The bib has a "skirt" that rolls into the
> "tunnel skirt" on the dry top to form a two-piece dry suit. Because
> this seal is well below the top of the bibs, minimal water seepage
> should not pose a problem. Water would need to migrate up and over the
> bib before getting the paddler wet. And there's plenty of material
> afforded in the roll so that it shouldn't leak. 
> 
> But I'm wondering how it all seals, and how the seal rides under a
> kayak skirt. Is there any bunching of the seal? 
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