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From: Ky Stratton <KYS_at_sdcity.sannet.gov>
subject: [Paddlewise] Kayak hoist
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 06:15:42 -0800
I'm hoping that one of you fellow kayakers out there can help me. 
I just moved and need to store (2) kayaks above the cars in the garage. 
Does anyone know of a, hopefully not to expensive, pulley/sling system
that is on the market or have plans that one can build. Any and all help
would be appreciated.  The kayaks are 16' and 14' w/a 28" beam.
Ky
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak hoist
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:36:40 -0800
Ky Stratton wrote:
> 
> I'm hoping that one of you fellow kayakers out there can help me.
> I just moved and need to store (2) kayaks above the cars in the garage.
> Does anyone know of a, hopefully not to expensive, pulley/sling system
> that is on the market or have plans that one can build. Any and all help
> would be appreciated.  The kayaks are 16' and 14' w/a 28" beam.

Yaks are so light you probably can get away without pulleys.  For each yak:  Sink mongo screw eyes
into adjacent ceiling joists (joist separation should resemble the width of the yak), two at the end
of each yak.  For the 14 footer, you want about an 8 foot separation, and for the 16 footer, about
10 feet.  Anchor one end of a SOFT LAY 3/8 inch line to one of the screw eyes and run the free end
through the other screw eye [front of yak].  Repeat for the stern.  Lay yak in the loops thus
formed.  Pull on the free ends of the lines, and voila!  . . .  yaklevitation!  [Tie free ends to
somethings immovable.]

To figure the length of line, measure the ceiling joist-floor distance and multiply by three *for
each line.*  SOFT LAY line is stuff which is supple, not stiff.  They have lots of this at marine
supply outlets.  If the friction in the described setup annoys you, get one pulley for each line and
attach to the screw eye the free end of the line goes through.  Move line to the pulley.  Now you
have *frictionless* yaklevitation!

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Dave Hylander <david_at_hylander.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak hoist
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:49:24 -0500
What I've found good for use in my garage which has an 8' ceiling are
the 20' long 1" nylon straps with cam buckles NRS (www.nrsweb.com)
sells.  I have a couple of heavy 3/8" screw hook eyes screwed into the
joists and the webbing is run through the eye.  The cam lock provides
the leverage for lifting.  The straps are placed about in the area of
the bulkheads on my boats and cost about $7 each. Works well for me.  If
your joists are higher than 8', another scheme may be necessary.

Dave
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From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen_at_imagelan.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak hoist
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:26:41 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Ky Stratton wrote:

> I'm hoping that one of you fellow kayakers out there can help me. 
> I just moved and need to store (2) kayaks above the cars in the garage. 
> Does anyone know of a, hopefully not to expensive, pulley/sling system
> that is on the market or have plans that one can build. Any and all help
> would be appreciated.  The kayaks are 16' and 14' w/a 28" beam.

We've currently got 3 boats hanging from the rafters in my moms garage.

One of the boats that we used to have hanging was an 18' fiberglass 
canoe, nicknamed the green monster, that weighed at least 80 pounds.

To get that boat up to the rafters we mounted 2 pulleys, one double and
a single to the rafters.   We also had a cleat mounted on the end wall to 
tie off the rope.  The rope was secured to the rafter at the far end of
the boat, it went from the rafter down to a pulley with S hook, back to the
rafter over to the double pulley, down to a second pulley with S hook,
back to the double pulley and then over to the wall.  Both S hooks would
attach to a rope loop at each end of the boat.  We would hoist the boat
to the rafters.  

Initially we left the boat simply held up by the slings.  Then one
day something came loose and the green monster fell from the rafters.  
We then put bolted old lap belts from a junk yard car to the rafters, one 
near each end of the boat.  After raising the boat to the rafters we 
would clip the safety belts in place and release tension on the hoist.

With lighter weight boats we now just use the old seat belts and lift
the boats into place.  Doing this solo I leave one seat belt clipped together
and feed the end of the boat into the opening, then work my way to the
other end of the boat to secure the second belt.

Seat belts are great because they are extremely secure and the webbing is
nice and wide so it distributes weight well.  They are also free if you
have a junker you are getting rid of.

For the boats in my own garage I built a 1 sided "canoe" tree with the
supports set according to the boats that belong there, the heaviest boats
go on the bottom.  I've never had problems with this rack and it keeps 4 
kayaks, 1 canoe and 2 sailboards in one easily accessable column.  In theory
with enough room to put cars in the garage, but I haven't tried that yet ;-)

kirk
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From: Gabriel L Romeu <romeug_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak hoist
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:49:04 -0500
one double and one single heavy duty pulley with the approriate size
robe should suffice, available at your local home center.  all
cautionary support methodes to avoid warping the boats would apply...
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From: Scott Ives <ssives_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak hoist
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:10:20 -0500
Ky,

  I don't think you need any kind of "system."  Just get some small
block and tackles.  I have use plain eye bolts without even using the
blocks.  Just make sure the bolts go into a solid beam.  

  - Scott



Ky Stratton wrote:
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> 
> Does anyone know of a, hopefully not to expensive, pulley/sling system
> that is on the market or have plans that one can build. Any and all help would be appreciated.   Ky
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