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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Roof Racks
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:56:53 -0500
Thanks for all the advise. Yakima rates their towers that clip on to the
factory racks at 150lbs as opposed to 165 lbs for rain gutters. They also
strongly recommend front and rear straps, something I haven't been doing.

cya!

bob Denton

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From: Stephen Bird <stephen.bird_at_superaje.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Roof Racks
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:28:27 GMT
On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:56:53 -0500, you wrote:

>Thanks for all the advise. Yakima rates their towers that clip on to the
>factory racks at 150lbs as opposed to 165 lbs for rain gutters. They also
>strongly recommend front and rear straps, something I haven't been doing.

I always use front and rear straps as extra measure of security, especially
in windy driving conditions. Mine have hooks and gears for easy tightening.
I use a short nylon strap looped over the bow and stern to use with the
hooks to keep the weight distributed and to the reduce risk of scratching.
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From: A Burton <aburton1_at_maine.rr.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Roof Racks
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:56:18 +0000
 Speaking of roof racks, I have changed cars and am now
adjusting to my delightfully lower Subaru Legacy wagon.   (I'm
short.)   I am trying out a new configuration - Thule rack with
Thule saddles in the front and Yakima rollers in the back. 
Seems to work fine, but the saddles are lower than the rollers.

Therefore the bow slants downward at (total guess) maybe 10 or 
15 degrees.   It's a jaunty look, but I'm concerned about the 
wind forces at highway speeds with the kayak at this odd angle.  
Does anyone have any thoughts on the safety or advisability of 
carrying the kayak this way?   It was not alarming on local 
roads....

Thanks

Anne Burton

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From: John C. Winskill <johncw_at_narrows.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Roof Racks
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:36:44 -0800
Anne;

For years I used the Yakima saddles with the rubber liners off of the
set of saddles in the back.  This allows for easy sliding of the kayak
on the rear saddles and solid griping from the standard rubber lined
front saddles.  This way everything stayed the same height.  I always
felt that the Hully Rollers were a bit redundant.
 
John Winskill

A Burton wrote:
> 
>  Speaking of roof racks, I have changed cars and am now
> adjusting to my delightfully lower Subaru Legacy wagon.   (I'm
> short.)   I am trying out a new configuration - Thule rack with
> Thule saddles in the front and Yakima rollers in the back.
> Seems to work fine, but the saddles are lower than the rollers.
> 
> Therefore the bow slants downward at (total guess) maybe 10 or
> 15 degrees.   It's a jaunty look, but I'm concerned about the
> wind forces at highway speeds with the kayak at this odd angle.
> Does anyone have any thoughts on the safety or advisability of
> carrying the kayak this way?   It was not alarming on local
> roads....
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Anne Burton
>
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From: Scott Ives <ssives_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Roof Racks
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:14:22 -0500
I'm no wind tunnel engineer, but I would think that you would be
REDUCING air drag by having the kayaks angled down slightly.  Isn't
this  like the "wedge" shape that fast cars have?


  - Scott
A Burton wrote:
> 
> Therefore the bow slants downward at (total guess) maybe 10 or
> 15 degrees..... 
> 
>
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From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Roof Racks
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:48:32 -0500
Bob Denton wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the advise. Yakima rates their towers that clip on to the
> factory racks at 150lbs as opposed to 165 lbs for rain gutters. They also
> strongly recommend front and rear straps, something I haven't been doing.
> 
Front and rear straps as in from the bow and stern toggles to the
bumper? I think that's an excellent idea. A 17 foot boat on racks with a
3 foot spread means there's a 7 foot effort arm generating torque on the
hold-down straps. Put that in a 70+ MPH wind and you can get some
serious twisting.

However, take it easy with those bow and stern ropes. Some people tie a
trucker's hitch in them and cramp down on them with all their weight.
Good way to snap a glass boat in half or bend a plastic one.

Steve
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