In a message dated 11/24/98 11:39:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, aburton1_at_maine.rr.com writes: << I [] learned from a store that [Yakima doesn't] plan to market the 4 Hully Rollers next year, but a combination of cradle and rollers. >> Ahhh, something new and interesting! Yakima listening to its customers! People have been doing that --- putting HullyRollers on the back bar but keeping the TLC Saddles on the front bar --- since Yak introduced the Rollers precisely because of your observation. HullyRollers on both front and back don't give nearly the support that the TLCs did --- and Yak deliberately discontinued TLCs when they brought out the HullyRollers initially, but the complaints about <that> dumb idea eventually made them reconsider and change their mind and bring back TLCs. Now a hybrid set from Yak! Great idea. Which brings me to a personal question: does anyone <have> a half set --- i.e., one bar's worth --- of HullyRollers, used or not, that they'd be interested in selling or possibly in trading for a half set --- one bar's worth --- of used TLC Saddles, complete with "parachute rigger-manufactured" straps? (Would really prefer just to pay for a half set of Rollers, but the trade's an option.) I want to add a set of Rollers on a third bar aft of my dual set of TLC Saddles to aid getting the boat on the roof of my wanna-be SUV, but I do have some servicable TLCs, should anyone else with HullyRollers want to try the mix'n'match setup. Jack Martin Annapolis, Maryland area *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> << I [] learned from a store that [Yakima doesn't] plan to market the > 4 Hully Rollers next year, but a combination of cradle and > rollers. >> Given discussions I had with many about the rollers, I had intended to mix my cradles with my rollers when I got my new vehicle. My truck is pretty high in the back, so the rollers are a must. When I put my new rack system on, I found that my old cradles would not work with the wide bar that I chose to buy for cuting down the wind noise and to maintain a more 'natural' appearance to my rooftop rack system. Given that I couldn't use my cradles and I wanted (needed!!) to paddle that day, I chose to use all four rollers. I've had my boat on top two dozen times since and have been <very> happy with them! I find that I do <not> get the play that others have mentioned. When the boat is strapped down, it's nice and tight. I also find that the rollers conform to the hull shape better than the cradles do -- I always had problems getting just the right curve in the cradles, then I had to play around a lot with positioning the boat in the cradle to find just the right place for the best fit... every time I put the boat on top. Another thing I like about the Hully Roller system is the fact that when the boat comes down, so do the straps. They don't hang out on top of the car and get damaged by sunlight and other weather conditions when they're not in use. I guess that you can do this with the cradles, but the cradles seem to work better with the straps thread through the cradle mechanism. In any case, I have two complete roof rack systems (towers, bars, cradles) that I'm looking to sell to clear space in my garage. One set fits a Toyota 4Runner, the other fits a Dodge Caravan (with rain gutters). If you're local to D.C. and are interested in them make me an offer. Greg - Greg Hollingsworth EMAIL: gregh_at_abs.net PHONE: 240-228-6065 WWW: abs.net/~gregh/kayaking LIVES: Sykesville, Maryland WORKS: Johns Hopkins/Applied Physics Lab PADDLES: Red Nordkapp usually on Chesapeake tributaries - *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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