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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] N.Y. Folding Folding Chart
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:53:27 -0800
Erik.Baard_at_cor.dowjones.com wrote:
> 
>      Hi,
> 
>      This message is directed at folding kayak paddlers in New York, but it
>      might stir up useful thoughts for rigid paddlers and those outside
>      Metropolis.
> 
>      I'm considering to as a winter/spring project make a Folding Kayakers'
>      Chart of the New York Harbor.  I haven't seen such a thing.  I know
>      that there are several folks out there with supreme qualifications to
>      speed such an endeavor along, but I won't name them here because that
>      might amount to drafting them! <SNIPPED>

Splendid idea!  Erik, as you know, the last issue of Folding Kayaker has
a lead article on Folding Kayak Destinations: Paddling the Big Apple
devoted to the idea of using public transportation for getting to
put-ins with folding kayaks to do various trips; and it vaguely talks of
bail-out spots.  But it only scratched the surface and was limited by
the narrow scope of a newsletter.

Your idea would flesh it out and would be quite valuable.

I am a firm believer in marking charts with possible bailout spots that
are accessible and feasible to use and stated so in that lead article. 
But it would be nice to see that more detailed for this area.

For example, if you were to leave the Downtown Boathouse and crossed the
Hudson and found it impossible to re-cross for some reason, say that
infamous cigarette boat race in September in which the US Coast Guard
shuts down the river for a few hours.  In that case you could pull out
at the Liberty Harbor Marina in the Morris Basin, knock down your boat
and take a cab to the PATH train back to Manhattan.  Or if the reason
for not being able to re-cross were something other than the river being
closed to traffic, you might be able to work you way to where you could
pull out within easy hauling distance of one of the New York Waterways
ferries. I have a vague idea of this but don't know precisely where.

Those are kinds of bail-out situations to know about.  So, more power to
you, Erik, in this effort.

ralph diaz
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From: Roger Korn <rkorn_at_europa.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] N.Y. Folding Folding Chart
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:03:07 -0800
I live about 20 miles west of Portland, OR. Just hop on the MAX light rail, into
Portland, out to 82nd Ave, catch the Tri-Met bus out to Estacada, walk half a
mile to McIver Park, inflate the orange torpedo, and enjoy 8 hours of 4+
whitewater on the Clackamas River. Catch the Oregon City bus
to PDX, onto the MAX, and I'm home.

rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote:

> Erik.Baard_at_cor.dowjones.com wrote:
> >
> >      Hi,
> >
> >      This message is directed at folding kayak paddlers in New York, but it
> >      might stir up useful thoughts for rigid paddlers and those outside
> >      Metropolis.
> >
> >      I'm considering to as a winter/spring project make a Folding Kayakers'
> >      Chart of the New York Harbor.  I haven't seen such a thing.  I know
> >      that there are several folks out there with supreme qualifications to
> >      speed such an endeavor along, but I won't name them here because that
> >      might amount to drafting them! <SNIPPED>
>
> Splendid idea!  Erik, as you know, the last issue of Folding Kayaker has
> a lead article on Folding Kayak Destinations: Paddling the Big Apple
> devoted to the idea of using public transportation for getting to
> put-ins with folding kayaks to do various trips; and it vaguely talks of
> bail-out spots.  But it only scratched the surface and was limited by
> the narrow scope of a newsletter.
>
> Your idea would flesh it out and would be quite valuable.
>
> I am a firm believer in marking charts with possible bailout spots that
> are accessible and feasible to use and stated so in that lead article.
> But it would be nice to see that more detailed for this area.
>
> For example, if you were to leave the Downtown Boathouse and crossed the
> Hudson and found it impossible to re-cross for some reason, say that
> infamous cigarette boat race in September in which the US Coast Guard
> shuts down the river for a few hours.  In that case you could pull out
> at the Liberty Harbor Marina in the Morris Basin, knock down your boat
> and take a cab to the PATH train back to Manhattan.  Or if the reason
> for not being able to re-cross were something other than the river being
> closed to traffic, you might be able to work you way to where you could
> pull out within easy hauling distance of one of the New York Waterways
> ferries. I have a vague idea of this but don't know precisely where.
>
> Those are kinds of bail-out situations to know about.  So, more power to
> you, Erik, in this effort.
>
> ralph diaz
> --
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> PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024
> Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com
> "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag."
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