I can't remember if this topic has come up lately; if so please accept my apologies. At our paddling club get together the other night the subject of keeping cameras both safe and handy came up. Many of us carry our cameras in waterproof bags in our laps or on the boat bottom, but often by the time that we get the camera out of its container the picture that we wanted is no longer there. Someone thought that they had heard of a new, waterproof container that could store a camera under (and tied to) the deck bungies. Does anyone know of such a container, or anything else that works well? What does everyone else who carries a camera use? Thanks, John *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I have a Minolta waterproof to 33ft camera. I usually carry it with the bildge pump in a bungie inside the hull. When the sea is rough, I can not take any photographs because taking off my spray skirt and getting my hands off the paddle gets to be risky. I have tried tying the camera in the front deck bungies, but I keep hitting it with the paddle. The best solution seems to be tying the camera in the aft deck bungies, tethered with a bungie cord. Many of the photographs I have taken have water drops in the lenses, though. my two cents, - Julio > > I can't remember if this topic has come up lately; if so please accept > my apologies. > At our paddling club get together the other night the subject of keeping > cameras both safe and handy came up. Many of us carry our cameras in > waterproof bags in our laps or on the boat bottom, but often by the time > that we get the camera out of its container the picture that we wanted > is no longer there. Someone thought that they had heard of a new, > waterproof container that could store a camera under (and tied to) the > deck bungies. Does anyone know of such a container, or anything else > that works well? What does everyone else who carries a camera use? > > Thanks, > John > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Many dive shops carry a plastic bag that fits over many cameras, allowing them to be operated underwater to about 25 feet deep. Try a yahoo search on underwater cameras and plastic bags, etc. Dan Volker > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of John > Waddington > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 9:20 AM > To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subject: [Paddlewise] camera storage > > > I can't remember if this topic has come up lately; if so please accept > my apologies. > At our paddling club get together the other night the subject of keeping > cameras both safe and handy came up. Many of us carry our cameras in > waterproof bags in our laps or on the boat bottom, but often by the time > that we get the camera out of its container the picture that we wanted > is no longer there. Someone thought that they had heard of a new, > waterproof container that could store a camera under (and tied to) the > deck bungies. Does anyone know of such a container, or anything else > that works well? What does everyone else who carries a camera use? > > Thanks, > John > ****************************************************************** > ********* > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > ****************************************************************** > ********* > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I often keep my camera (weather-proof whatever that means) on its strap around my neck with the camera tucked into the front of my PFD (yet another reason to wear that PFD) This allows quick and easy access when needed but keeps drops off the lense and keeps it out of harms way when not in use. So far it seems a good compromise. mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 02:19 PM 11/19/98 +0000, John Waddington wrote: >...Someone thought that they had heard of a new, >waterproof container that could store a camera under (and tied to) the >deck bungies. Does anyone know of such a container, or anything else >that works well? I'm currently reading the June '98 issue of Sea Kayaker magazine and there's a good article on cameras and accessible storage for them while paddling. You might try their web site for old articles like this one. Bill Ridlon Southern Maine Sea Kayaking Network *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
John Waddington wrote: > Someone thought that they had heard of a new, > waterproof container that could store a camera under (and tied to) the > deck bungies. Does anyone know of such a container, or anything else > that works well? What does everyone else who carries a camera use? My solution has been a Canon Sure Shot a1 which is a waterproof camera, velcro on the strap which attatches to velcro on the waterbottle belt which is strapped to the bungies. The rather long camera strap is also secured to the bungies as a secondary. This is not the 'nature' camera having a rather short lens, 32mm, but is not expensive as a nikonos. Having used both, I prefer the mechanics (or rather electronics) of this one. Havn't figured out an application yet for it, enough postcards and calenders of great blue herons for me to want to duplicate, but I have a camera with me all the time so it was one of the first things I outfited my boat with. It will be an interesting problem to figure out what I want to document that may be an interesting investigation. > -- gabriel l romeu http://members.aol.com/romeug studio furniture http://members.aol.com/romeugp paintings, photos, prints, etc. http://members.xoom.com/gabrielR a daily photo journal *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Now the question of cameras is on the table, have any had experience with telephoto lenses on waterproof cameras? I often wish for a quality 80-90 mm lens rather than the standard 32-38 mm ones available on most WP equipment. The Nikonos is the best quality (arguably not markedly superior to the now-defunct Action Touch). Anyone know how well the Nikonos 80 works in atmospheric conditions? Or is this exclusively an underwater lens? The zoom lens on point-and-shoot cameras seem to sacrifice a good deal of resolution for convenience. Any suggestions appreciated. Richard G. Mitchell, Jr. Department of Sociology Oregon State University Corvallis, OR 97331 U.S.A. (541) 752-1323 phone/fax mitchelr_at_ucs.orst.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Richard Mitchell wrote: > > Now the question of cameras is on the table, have any had > experience with telephoto lenses on waterproof cameras? I often > wish for a quality 80-90 mm lens rather than the standard 32-38 > mm ones available on most WP equipment. We use a Pentax WR90, which has a 38-90 zoom lens. It is not advertised as "waterproof" although it is dunkable. Do not zoom it while it's under water, though. I've worn it under my PFD in Class III rapids, so you needn't worry about it getting wet. The lens is not as good as my Pentax AF/SLR lenses, but better than most point-and-shoot cameras. We bought ours in preparation for a trip to the Apostles in 1994. I think the zoom length is a little longer in the newer ones. Steve -- Test Scoring & Reporting Services Sometimes, you never can University of Georgia always tell what you Athens, GA 30602-5593 least expect the most. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> We use a Pentax WR90, which has a 38-90 zoom lens. It is not advertised > as "waterproof" although it is dunkable. Do not zoom it while it's under > water, though. I've worn it under my PFD in Class III rapids, so you > needn't worry about it getting wet. The lens is not as good as my Pentax > AF/SLR lenses, but better than most point-and-shoot cameras. > > We bought ours in preparation for a trip to the Apostles in 1994. I > think the zoom length is a little longer in the newer ones. > > Steve I'll also vouch for the Pentax WR90. I had my trusty SLR & some lenses stolen this summer, and when the insurance settlement came through I whittled the choices down to getting a Nikon FM2 & standard lens to replace the SLR (+ forking out bucks to re-build the collection of lenses), or a Pentax WR90 and a pair of Nikon 7x50 wp/compass binoculars to make up the difference in value. After much humming and hahhing I realised that I rarely actually took the SLR outfit in my boat/bikes/climbing/skiing because I was worried about damage or couldn't justify the bulk and weight (and I never took my non-waterproof bins in the boat), and therefore opted for the compact and the bins. I've been really impressed with the capabilities of the camera - a lot more than a simple point and shoot, dunkable, fits in a pfd pocket, and while the lens isn't quite as sharp as my previous SLR lenses it's pretty bloody close, and far away the best on a compact (let alone water resistant compact) I've seen. Bins aren't bad either :-) Cheers Colin Calder 57º19'N 2º10'W *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
We use a Pentax WR90, which has a 38-90 zoom lens. It is not advertised as "waterproof" although it is dunkable. Do not zoom it while it's under water, though. I've worn it under my PFD in Class III rapids, so you needn't worry about it getting wet. The lens is not as good as my Pentax AF/SLR lenses, but better than most point-and-shoot cameras. > I have one also. It's advertised as "water resistant", however, there are a number of positive stories about salt water immersions in the r.b.p. archives. I was disappointed in the zoom capabilities. I'm not a camera buff so I guess my expectations were too high. I took a picture of a young bull moose from about 30 yards and it came out looking like a chipmunk. :-(. I'm quite satisfied with the picture quality though. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Sisler, Clyde wrote: > > > We use a Pentax WR90, ........ > > I was disappointed in the zoom capabilities. I'm not a camera buff so I > guess my expectations were too high. I took a picture of a young bull moose > from about 30 yards and it came out looking like a chipmunk. :-(. I'm > quite satisfied with the picture quality though. A 90 mm lens is not what you'd consider a long lens for nature photography. Imagine what the moose would have looked like with a 35 mm lens. Normally my advice is "Get closer." In this case, I'll forgo that advice. Steve -- Test Scoring & Reporting Services Sometimes, you never can University of Georgia always tell what you Athens, GA 30602-5593 least expect the most. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Steve Cramer wrote: > > Sisler, Clyde wrote: > > > > > We use a Pentax WR90, ........ > > > > I was disappointed in the zoom capabilities. I'm not a camera buff so I > > guess my expectations were too high. I took a picture of a young bull moose > > from about 30 yards and it came out looking like a chipmunk. :-(. I'm > > quite satisfied with the picture quality though. > > A 90 mm lens is not what you'd consider a long lens for nature > photography. Imagine what the moose would have looked like with a 35 mm > lens. > > Normally my advice is "Get closer." In this case, I'll forgo that > advice. I have been close to moose several times in a canoe, sometimes intentionally, sometimes just by paddling around a bend & meeting one. I like to make sure the moose knows I'm around & move in slowly while talking & watching it's reaction. This gives it plenty of time to head for the bush or warn me off. I have an okay picture of a cow moose taken with a pocket 35 with 35-70 mm zoom. Cow moose seem to be easier to approach while bulls usually disappear into the bush. The one exception was one time in a swamp. I paddled past a bush, heard a noise, looked back & found I had passing within 10 feet of a large bull. He didn't seem at all bothered. I wish I had a camera that time. Don't try approaching a bull in rutting season or with a cow & calf. -- Lloyd Bowles The Mad Canoeist "Keep the open side up!" http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/clearstreets/358/index.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Richard Mitchell wrote: > > Now the question of cameras is on the table, have any had > experience with telephoto lenses on waterproof cameras? I often > wish for a quality 80-90 mm lens rather than the standard 32-38 > mm ones available on most WP equipment. The Nikonos is the best > quality (arguably not markedly superior to the now-defunct Action > Touch). Anyone know how well the Nikonos 80 works in atmospheric > conditions? had an older nikonos which worked fine in a project I did using flash in the rain. just a somewhat clumsy camera. Or is this exclusively an underwater lens? The zoom > lens on point-and-shoot cameras seem to sacrifice a good deal of > resolution for convenience. Any suggestions appreciated. really? doing poster size stuff? I can't tell the difference with up to 11x14", largest I ever print, between my Canon sure shot(waterproof) and my Leica m3. come to think of it, havn't found much percievable difference between any of my 35s (have had a few of them including an olypus xa, stylus, rollei 35s, honeywell sp1000, Leica CL) except when I tried a zoom once. I never photographed a resolution chart though...gotta say that the non-autofocus are a lot faster... All in all though resolution is of secondary importance for what I do. > > -- gabriel l romeu http://members.aol.com/romeug studio furniture http://members.aol.com/romeugp paintings, photos, prints, etc. http://members.xoom.com/gabrielR a daily photo journal *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Pentax now makes a 105mm zoom water"proof" version of the IQ90WR, I believe. I was dissatisfied with the zoom ability too. After my Pentax was stolen I switched to a Minolta Vectis S-1 APS, which is only "splashproof," not dunkable. It is an SLR takes takes multiple lenses, telephoto, wide-angle, macro, and also takes lens caps and filters, which the Pentax does not, and has no parallax like point&shoots. It is smaller and lighter than other SLRs. Only one problem: no APS slide film. Richard --Seattle, WA _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free _at_yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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