Ken, Thomas Hobbs got the description of plastic boat life essentially correct in 1641. When compared to their fiberglass cousins, "The life of [plastic boats] is nasty, brutish and short." I don't know about all plastics but my AquaTerra Chinook age 7 years was definitely showing cracks in rounded areas and had always been stored indoors. Dave Kruger can give you the chemistry but one dramatic demo of the fragility of poly containers came years ago on a mountaineering expedition I'd organized on the Monarch Icecap in BC. We arranged for a bush plane to resupply us with an air drop after reaching the icecap plateau. The drop arrived more or less on time and in place but the results were an eye opener. We figured poly bottles and containers would be the most secure, flexible and impact resistant so we gathered our spare climbing bottles etc. and loaded them with rum, butter, honey, and and other gooey goodies. All the messy stuff was in 4-7 year old Nalgene bottles, Tupperware and other high-grade but somewhat aged poly containers. We also had some last minute additions -- 2/3 gallon of Coleman fuel in the can, canned fruit in a mailing tube, and canned meats. Everything was packed together in a multilayered semi-hard drop container, very tightly packed). We figured the tin would not make it but counted on the plastic. Wrong, wrong, wrong. *Every* poly container shattered upon impact. The butter and the run and the honey mixed nicely with my spare clothes and etc. You can imagine the mess. Upon examination, the poly containers looked like shards of glass -- splintered and cracked. The tin? Everything was fine! The Coleman fuel can distorted and stretched in shape, as did many of the other tin containers, but all remained intact. On subsequent climbing trips we used tin containers with much success and avoided any more poly unless it held nothing more vital than oats or toilet paper. So I don't know about boats, but poly bottles and boxes of a certain age, subjected to sudden shock, are not the best. RGM Ken Cooperstein wrote: > > One of the folding boat enthusiasts (who shall remain nameless, except > to say that he is Ralph Diaz) wrote in his book that plastic boats have > a life of about eight years and then become brittle. > > Is this because of UV damage? Or other chemical breakdown? Does it > afflict both straght chain and cross-linked polyethylene? > > I have my doubts about this assertion because I own a number of > polyethylene objects that are over 20 years old and they are still > flexible and like new. OTOH, polyethylene left in the sun does indeed > fall apart pretty quick -- a problem that can be solved for kayaks by > proper storage. > > Ken Cooperstein > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** -- Richard G. Mitchell, Jr. Department of Sociology Oregon State University Corvallis, OR 97331 U.S.A. (541) 752-1323 phone/fax mitchelr_at_ucs.orst.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sat Dec 05 1998 - 02:22:15 PST
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