This is only an unscientific observation but nevertheless just something to say on the subject. I have a feeling plastic boats last longer in a tropical environment where they do not get frozen as in winter. IOW I'm suggesting that freezing of the plastic MAY be a factor in its cracking. Surfbuff ---------- From: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com[SMTP:rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com] Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 11:41 PM To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: [Paddlewise] more on life of plastic and plastic boats Dave Kruger wrote: > > rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > [snip] > > I wonder if some other factors should be added. > > > > Thickness of the material. The walls of a polyethylene boat are of x > > thickness. That would likely mean that they would age a lot faster than > > say the half inch thick high density polyethylene cross ribs used in > > Feathecrafts. > > Yup. And, sea kayak hulls are normally thicker than the usual PE bottle's > walls. > > > Length of the material in conjunction with how much it is subjected to > > flex. I sense that polyethylene white water boats (except for the hard > > knocks they get against rocks etc.) tend to last a bit longer than their > > sea kayak counterparts because of the differences in length and amount > > of flex. > > Both valid points, Ralph. I suspect thicker materials such as the Fcraft > ribs will outlast you or me! (Are they polyethylene? I believe Folbot > frames are a filled polycarbonate -- much more long-lasting than PE.) Feathercraft uses HD polyethylene for cross ribs in all its boats except the K-Light. The K-Light uses polycarbonate. Feathercraft also uses polypropylene at the bow and stern pieces of their boats. The polyethylene is cut on jigs using 1/2 thick slabs of the stuff (the jig cuts do 2 slabs at a time to yield 2 sets of ribs). The polycarbonate, like that used in Folbots, is from molds. Feathercraft executes its ribs somewhat better than does Folbot. The holes in the polycarbonate in the Feathercrafts are all part of the molds where as Folbot does some drilling in its polycarbonate. Feathercraft strives for rounded corners everywhere whereas Folbot's corners in places are sharper. In polycarbonate, any drilled hole and any sharp corner is a potential weak point for cracks, fissures, etc. Feathercraft uses polyproplene in the bow and stern pieces precisely because it can take drilling and it flexible. As you can see, choices of "plastics" fascinate me and how different companies work in different ways with them. My interest in this has led me to by chance run across the formula for determining the life expectancy of a plastic boat. This will help answer the question that led to this string. Here is the formula: Find the boat's Bartow coefficient (the average thickness divided by the square root of boat length). Establish the Lonval or longitude value. To do this determine the degree of longitude of where the boat is mostly used. Use your GPS or a map or chart to establish this. Divide the sum of the degrees and minutes of longitude by 3 to get the Lonval. Consider the ROY G BIV factor, which is based on the color of the boat. If the first letter of the boat's color is in the ROY field, the factor is 3. If in the BIV field, the factor is 7. Boats in colors that begin in G gets a 5. So a green colored boat would have a ROY G BIV factor of 5, a red boat 3, a blue boat 7, etc. Now divide the Bartow coefficient by the Lonval value and multiply the result by the ROY G BIV factor. That should come up with a close approximation of the life of the boat in terms of months of life expectancy. Honest! :-) ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sun Dec 06 1998 - 04:42:55 PST
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