RE: [Paddlewise] FW: ACA meetings: Greenlan

On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Mattson, Timothy G wrote:

> 
> Mark,
> 
> I think you missed the point of the Nigel Foster quote.  Your club (at least
> judging from your signature banner) is a sea kayak club.  We all know that
> sea kayakers --- for a variety of reasons -- avoid learning to roll.  White
> water kayakers, on the other hand, are obsessed with rolling.  80% of the
> white water kayakers I know have solid river-rolls and the other 20% are
> working very hard to get theirs.

hi tim,

i think you missed _my_ point... i've included it below. the discussion is
canoes, and as my address [canoeist_at_netbox.com] should also suggest, i
was/am referring to canoe rolling.... as i've also responded to others
off-line...

mark

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Mark Zen [SMTP:canoeist_at_netbox.com]
> > Sent:	Tuesday, December 15, 1998 4:14 PM
> > To:	paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> > Subject:	Re: [Paddlewise] FW: ACA meetings: Greenlan
> > 
> > >>as Nigel Foster pointed out in Sea Kayaker some time ago, a roll is
> > >>considered a basic skill in whitewater, so why not in sea kayaking?
> > >
> > >HMMMM. Now, if a roll is a basic skill in kayaking then what about
> > >canoeing?
> > 
> > rolling is an advanced skill... under 10% can roll in a pool, less than 
> > 5% under combat conditions, at least that's my observation of a 250-300+
> > member club.
> > 
> > mark
> > 
> > #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com--------------------------------------
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#------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ----
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mark zen                      o,    o__              o_/|   o_.
po box 474                   </     [\/              [\_|   [\_\
ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----')      (`----|-------\-')
#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~
http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler  [index to club websites i administer]

Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers
The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page 
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"In a world without fences, who needs 'Gates'"
   -- Scott McNealy

"In a world without walls, who needs 'Windows'"
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