If a person wants to sea kayak, but does not want to learn how to roll, then maybe they should by a sit on top boat, like a surf ski. The 19 to 24 foot long surfski are every bit as fast, if not faster than any sea kayak, and can be rigged with hatches for storing gear, just like a sea kayak. Dan Volker -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Steve Cramer Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 11:51 AM To: Paddlewise Subject: [Paddlewise] Rolls (was ACA meetings: Greenland) Mattson, Timothy G wrote: > > Clearly, only very serious sea kayakers learn to roll -- and these people > tend to become (or already are) advanced paddlers. This makes sea kayak > rolling by construction an advanced technique. But it doesn't have to be > that way -- which is the point of the Nigel Foster quote. Its not an > advanced technique in white water paddling. Only very serious sea kayakers _who intend to put themselves in bumpy water_ (open ocean, surf, tidal rips) learn to roll, and not all of them. This represents a minority of sea kayakers, many of whom don't want to see any more than a 2" riffle. _All_ ww kayakers intend to put themselves in bumpy water; that's the point of the sport, so a roll is basic to ww. Also, a swim in a river rapid exposes you to hazards (rocks, undercuts, strainers, keeper holes) that a swim in the ocean generally doesn't. > Given that rolling a sea kayak > is no harder than rolling a white water boat (except when the sea kayak > fits too loosely in which case they can be a bit harder to roll), there is > no reason rolling can't be a basic skill in sea kayaking as well. > None, except that most sea kayakers don't feel they need to roll, and they're probably right, considering the conditions the intend to paddle in. BTW, I know a number of WW kayakers with decent Class III combat rolls who were not able to roll even a well-fitting sea kayak at first, including me. I would disagree that a sea kayak is as easy to roll as a ww boat. Steve -- Test Scoring & Reporting Services Sometimes, you never can University of Georgia always tell what you Athens, GA 30602-5593 least expect the most. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Wed Dec 16 1998 - 11:14:59 PST
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