Julio, I'm looking forward to the discussion that will be generated by your questions about surf skis. I don't have a definition for a surf ski. I've only seen sit on tops called surf skis. As your post suggested, the key is to get the waterline length to the width ratio as high as possible. An interesting web site to check out on this issue is the sound rowers boat classification web site. The URL is: www.accessone.com/~traci/SoundRowers/yakclass.html They define three classes of kayak based on this ratio: sea kayak (less than 9.25), fast sea kayak (between 9.25 and 10.99), and high performance kayak (greater than 10.99). All the surf skis I'm aware of are considered high performance kayaks with ratios typically between 12 and 14. There are some decked kayaks that fall in the high performance kayak class. For example, a famous decked kayak in the northwest racing scene is the Sissuou Evolution (affectionatly known up here as "orange crush"). The boat's waterline length to the width ratio is greater than 12! As for rudders, my experience is that these boats really need the rudders. Yes, a skilled paddler can control the boat without the rudder, but the goal for surf skis and other high performance kayaks is speed. If you want the ultimate speed, you want to use a wing paddle. A wing paddle is great for forward strokes, but is not too good at correction strokes -- hence the rudder is quite useful. Even without the wing paddle, the rudder is useful since it can replace some correction strokes and let the paddler's energy focus on the forwared stroke. As for surf, I can't imagine using a surf ski in breaking surf. I suspect their lack of maneuverability would be difficult and that they would tend to broach in the breaking wave. They are great, however, for surfing swells. Finally, a comment on your greenland kayak. I don't know if it would be considered a surf ski, but its waterline length to the width ratio would be around 12 which would make it a high performance kayak. --Tim -----Original Message----- From: Julio MacWilliams To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Sent: 12/23/98 10:05 PM Subject: [Paddlewise] surf skis? Could anyone please define what is a surf ski? Are those long 19feet x 18inch rockets really used in surf? Are they all open deck? Or does a long and narrow closed deck kayak qualify? Do they all have rudders? Is that necessary/desirable? Can a 18feet x 19inch Greenland kayak be considered a surf ski? If not, what does it need? thanks! - Julio ************************************************************************ *** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ************************************************************************ *** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Dec 24 1998 - 00:17:41 PST
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