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From: David Seng <David_at_wainet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Bear Spray
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:18:08 -0900
I cannot comment on the "normal" measures for bear avoidance (which is
much more effective than bear protection), but I can describe the
measures that I employ.  We have black and brown(grizzly) bears in this
area (SE Alaska), I can't comment on polar bears.

Cooking and food - All food storage, cooking and dishwashing takes place
at least 50 yards from the tent.  Foodstuffs are packed in their own
individual airtight containers, then double bagged in plastic and then
placed into a drybag or stuff sack.  If below tree line and there is a
tree with sufficient branches (ie. strong enough and broad enough to
hang the food away from the trunk) food is hung 15-20 feet in the air.
If above tree line or in an area that precludes hanging food I make a
cache of the food bags and then stack pots/pans/cups on top so that if
the cache is disturbed I'll know about it.  (My reaction might be to
simply burrow down deeper into my sleeping bag<g>)

Traveling - when hiking I make sure that I/we are making plenty of
noise, especially when hiking in thick brushy conditions where
visibility can often be measured in feet or inches.  I make an extra
effort at this when in the vicinity of a noisy stream that might mask
the sound of normal travel.

Salmon streams - Exercise extra care during the spring thru fall when
approaching or traveling on a salmon stream - interrupting a bear here
is akin to dropping in on top of someone's dinner table during a meal -
it doesn't usually evoke a good response.

General concepts - usually bears will avoid humans whenever possible -
letting them know we're in their territory is the most effective method
of avoiding conflict.  If a bear is accidentally encountered talking to
them in a low, calm voice can help while you slowly back away.  If in a
group, cluster together to appear larger.  I've never seen this and hope
dearly that I never do (well, mostly I hope dearly,  but there is a
teeny foolish part of me that thinks it would be tremendously exciting),
but often a bear will "bluff charge" and stop and then retreat if the
charge didn't cause the chargee to flee.
 I carry bear spray and sometimes a 12 ga. shotgun.  The shotgun is
something that is a purely personal decision - I feel comfortable
handling it - if I didn't, I wouldn't carry a gun at all.  Using it
would mean that I had screwed up by the numbers - or, as you'll see
below, that my luck just turned incredibly bad.  
 I will sometimes schedule and plan trips around where I think the bears
won't be - trips up into the alpine are great when the bears are down
low gorging on salmon.
 
Bears are unpredictable wild animals and I always try to remember that
I'm the trespasser in their territory - about three weeks ago a hunter
was mauled over on Admiralty island about 15-20 airmiles from Juneau.
He was hauling out a deer when the attack took place.  The hunter and
bear were initially in a stand-off position when the hunter decided to
abandon the carcass to the bear and move away - that's when the initial
attack took place.  The bear ignored the deer and went after the human.
The bear then abandoned the attack and circled thru the brush only to
attack the hunter again.  This sequence was performed a third time
before the bear eventually left the hunter alone.  A VHF distress call
picked up by a passing Alaska Marine Highway System ferry and relayed to
a local flying company finally ended in a rescue.  The guy had what were
described as 40-50 serious puncture wounds from the attack.  I know that
he lived, but don't know what the ultimate effects of this attack will
be.

Did the hunter somehow do something wrong (other than being in the wrong
place at the wrong time)? - I don't know.  What it does reinforce is
that taking all the precautions you can is a good idea when you're in
their domain. 

Oh - this business about fighting back if you're attacked - my first
close-up sighting of a big brownie made me realize that that would be
kind of like a mouse fighting back after my cat has caught it - it's
certainly entertaining to the cat<g>.

my rather long-winded .02
Dave Seng
Juneau, Alaska

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sisler, Clyde [mailto:Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 4:45 AM
> To: 'Paddlewise'
> Subject: [Paddlewise] Bear Spray: was Canadian Customs
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> On another note, what are normal measures for protecting 
> oneself from bears
> in the 'north country'.  Obiously, avoidence is #1, hang your 
> food high on a
> skinny branch, don't take food or your cooking clothes into 
> the tent.  Those
> are standard rules for black bear country and are usually sufficient.
> 
> My belief is polar bears will stalk and eat you and that 
> grizzly and Kodiak
> bears will normally try to avoid you (unless they're hungry?).
> 
> In Kabloona, Victoria talked about bear spray, an air horn, a 
> shotgun and a
> flare gun with normal flares and noisemakers.  I hadn't heard 
> of the noise
> makers before.
> 
> She also talked about setting up a sort of perimeter defense 
> with some kind
> of noise makers hanging from lines that would rattle if a 
> bear banged into
> them at night.  a) I don't know if I'd hear something like 
> that, and b)
> don't know if I'd have time to focus and react.
> 
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