Thanks to those who helped with advice on this here project. We did our back to back of the Hobie and Dagger on Sunday which shoulda been a day of rest but ended up with a buncha running around and some seriously sore muscles. Kim still prefers the Dagger and I the Hobie. We did dig up a Perception Jocassee (without rudder) which proved a total source of frustration. So, she's out of town for the week and has given me the final say so on which of the two to pick (which I don't believe for a minute). Don't say anything, but she can expect a bright red/yellow Dagger with purple skirt under the tree! Anyone know if a Perception Keowee II skirt will fit a Dagger Bayou 2? Thanks again all ... we'll be looking for you on Galveston Bay Gary Original text follows: I wonder if someone can provide a better view of the big picture where 2 seater fun boats are concerned. My girlfriend are looking for a way to get out on the water together and let me say right up front, we've heard all the 'divorce boat' references and are still determined to buy one boat not two. We'd like to paddle the calmer waters near Houston. To date we've checked out: Ocean Kayak Malibu 2 (I think), Hobie Odyssey, OK Zest 2, Dagger Bayou 2, Old Town Loon 160T and some kinda Cobra boat. I'm leaning toward the Hobie. It is set up for either double or single paddling, has decent stability and good tracking, reasonable internal storage and is somewhat less wet than the other sit-on-tops. There are some other less quantifiables like being easier to get back in/on than the other direction (see below) and may present fewer problems if we push our limits (see below). Kim prefers the Dagger Bayou 2 canoe/kayak mutation largely because of the perception of sitting-in rather than the sitting-on (she refers to sit-on-tops as unprofessional which isn't quite as rude as it sounds). I worry that even with a spray skirt the Dagger's minimal freeboard due to our combined weight (approximately 460 pounds) will cause problems. I think I could wrap my mind around the cayak/kayoe concept if only we found one with good freeboard/tracking/stowage etc. ... perhaps something like the Loon 160T with the ability to go straight in a friggin' breeze. Certainly we could add the rudder, but aren't these things supposed to track straight out of the box? Anyway, we plan to rent a Hobie and a Dagger and drag 'em to the water this weekend for a coupla hours of back2back. We might try and dig up a Perception Jocassee and throw that into the mix. Suggestions? Comments? Gary Tabor *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Another way to go would be with a 24 foot tandem surfski by Bruce Gibson, a manufacturer of Surfskis, and Elite level Surfski racer himself. He does not have a website or e-mail address ( he will one day ) , but he does have a telephone number...+1 (561) 395-1376. Bruce's company, Venture Sports, produces some of the fastest boats on the water, but his doubles boats are also known for higher stability. They can come with hatches for storage, just like sea kayaks, and are far safer if you run into bad weather. . -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Gary Tabor Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 7:14 PM To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: [Paddlewise] Fw: Help wanted on finding a good 2 seater recreational kayak Thanks to those who helped with advice on this here project. We did our back to back of the Hobie and Dagger on Sunday which shoulda been a day of rest but ended up with a buncha running around and some seriously sore muscles. Kim still prefers the Dagger and I the Hobie. We did dig up a Perception Jocassee (without rudder) which proved a total source of frustration. So, she's out of town for the week and has given me the final say so on which of the two to pick (which I don't believe for a minute). Don't say anything, but she can expect a bright red/yellow Dagger with purple skirt under the tree! Anyone know if a Perception Keowee II skirt will fit a Dagger Bayou 2? Thanks again all ... we'll be looking for you on Galveston Bay Gary Original text follows: I wonder if someone can provide a better view of the big picture where 2 seater fun boats are concerned. My girlfriend are looking for a way to get out on the water together and let me say right up front, we've heard all the 'divorce boat' references and are still determined to buy one boat not two. We'd like to paddle the calmer waters near Houston. To date we've checked out: Ocean Kayak Malibu 2 (I think), Hobie Odyssey, OK Zest 2, Dagger Bayou 2, Old Town Loon 160T and some kinda Cobra boat. I'm leaning toward the Hobie. It is set up for either double or single paddling, has decent stability and good tracking, reasonable internal storage and is somewhat less wet than the other sit-on-tops. There are some other less quantifiables like being easier to get back in/on than the other direction (see below) and may present fewer problems if we push our limits (see below). Kim prefers the Dagger Bayou 2 canoe/kayak mutation largely because of the perception of sitting-in rather than the sitting-on (she refers to sit-on-tops as unprofessional which isn't quite as rude as it sounds). I worry that even with a spray skirt the Dagger's minimal freeboard due to our combined weight (approximately 460 pounds) will cause problems. I think I could wrap my mind around the cayak/kayoe concept if only we found one with good freeboard/tracking/stowage etc. ... perhaps something like the Loon 160T with the ability to go straight in a friggin' breeze. Certainly we could add the rudder, but aren't these things supposed to track straight out of the box? Anyway, we plan to rent a Hobie and a Dagger and drag 'em to the water this weekend for a coupla hours of back2back. We might try and dig up a Perception Jocassee and throw that into the mix. Suggestions? Comments? Gary Tabor *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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