We don't have Meths here in the States, but you can purchase denatured alcohol at any hardware shop or pharmacy. cya! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of News > Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 5:55 AM > To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise V1 #331 > > > >So I ask you, what good is a Trangia stove? I remember my > last trip, this > >funny foreign guy had one, and I just assumed that it was a > funny foreign > >stove and not worth my attention since it didn't make an > impressively big > >fireball when ignited followed by a pleasant low growling roar > > > Do ALL Americans think that foreign people are funny? I won't > elaborate > on what we here in Wales think of Americans! > > But to talk about stoves... Trangias are well used here in > the UK. One of > their best features is that they burn better when there is a > draught - > they like the wind! (They are called 'storm cookers'). My > partner and I > use them all the time for camping - both mountaineering and > paddling. One > downside is that the 'meths' fuel leaves a very sooty finish > to the pans, > you can reduce this to an aceptble level by diluting the fuel > with water, > experiment to find out how much! > > When we vist the USA we don't bring the Trangia - we use our MSR - as > fuel is sometimes hard to find. Also the Trangia can be a > little bulky > compared to a stripped down MSR and say one pan for a > light-weight trip, > though the smaller Trangia setup is quite compact also. If > you were buing > one new then go for the Teflon non-stick coating and make > sure you also > get the very neat kettle for heating water for your tea or > coffe in the > morning. > > Cheers, > > Keith, Fachwen, North Wales. > ************************************************************** > ************* > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > ************************************************************** > ************* > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bob Denton wrote: > > We don't have Meths here in the States, but you can purchase denatured > alcohol at any hardware shop or pharmacy. (In response to Kevin:) > > But to talk about stoves... Trangias are well used here in the UK.[snip] > > One > > downside is that the 'meths' fuel leaves a very sooty finish to the pans > > > > When we visit the USA we don't bring the Trangia - we use our MSR - as > > fuel is sometimes hard to find. [snip] > > Keith, Fachwen, North Wales. Bob, I think "meths" is short for "methylated spirits," which is wood alcohol (aka methanol, aka methyl alcohol). I believe you can buy this at better hardware stores in the paint section. It has some use as a shellac thinner. I suspect denatured alcohol (aka denatured ethyl alcohol, aka denatured ethanol) would work in a Trangia, but have never tried it. Normally, the stuff at pharmacies is isopropyl alcohol (aka isopropanol, aka "rubbing alcohol"). I suspect it might not work too well in a Trangia, but have no experience here, either. FWIW, when any of the fuels suggested for the Trangia evaporates, essentially no smelly residue is left, more than I can say for white gas! Re: the "hazard" associated with packing a clean, empty white gas stove in one's airline luggage: minimal, especially when you think of it riding along, next to countless other pieces of luggage containing pressurized canisters of deodorant (etc.), all with highly flammable, extremely volatile propellants (usually a butane/propane mixture). Pretty inconsistent practices. Please note, I am NOT arguing for allowing even "empty" white gas stoves aboard airliners, just pointing out inconsistencies. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR who packs solid, "stick" deodorants on airline flights oh, my! what a good guy! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Mentholated spirits is treated with some nasty chemicals to make it unpalatable to winos. It's usually pink and a distant relative to Sterno. When I lived in South Africa, there were many homeless "Mountain people" (Bergies) that drank Meths and were in very poor shape because of it. Even today, I can't smell meths without being reminded of those poor people. Again, the US version isn't treated the same way. Perhaps the soot is from the flavouring. cya > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Kruger [mailto:dkruger_at_pacifier.com] > Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 10:16 AM > To: Bob Denton > Cc: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] PaddleWise V1 #331 > > > Bob Denton wrote: > > > > We don't have Meths here in the States, but you can > purchase denatured > > alcohol at any hardware shop or pharmacy. > > (In response to Kevin:) > > > But to talk about stoves... Trangias are well used here > in the UK.[snip] > > > One > > > downside is that the 'meths' fuel leaves a very sooty > finish to the pans > > > > > > When we visit the USA we don't bring the Trangia - we use > our MSR - as > > > fuel is sometimes hard to find. [snip] > > > Keith, Fachwen, North Wales. > > Bob, I think "meths" is short for "methylated spirits," which is wood > alcohol (aka methanol, aka methyl alcohol). I believe you > can buy this at > better hardware stores in the paint section. It has some use > as a shellac > thinner. I suspect denatured alcohol (aka denatured ethyl > alcohol, aka > denatured ethanol) would work in a Trangia, but have never tried it. > Normally, the stuff at pharmacies is isopropyl alcohol (aka > isopropanol, > aka "rubbing alcohol"). I suspect it might not work too well > in a Trangia, > but have no experience here, either. > > FWIW, when any of the fuels suggested for the Trangia evaporates, > essentially no smelly residue is left, more than I can say > for white gas! > > Re: the "hazard" associated with packing a clean, empty > white gas stove in > one's airline luggage: minimal, especially when you think of > it riding > along, next to countless other pieces of luggage containing > pressurized > canisters of deodorant (etc.), all with highly flammable, extremely > volatile propellants (usually a butane/propane mixture). Pretty > inconsistent practices. > > Please note, I am NOT arguing for allowing even "empty" white > gas stoves > aboard airliners, just pointing out inconsistencies. > > -- > Dave Kruger > Astoria, OR > who packs solid, "stick" deodorants on airline flights > oh, my! what a good guy! > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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