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From: <VajraT_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Foods That Don't Need Cooking
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:34:54 EST
Andy Knapp writes:> Often when flying, the 
> destination is a warm weather paddling area, and an additional option is to
> dispense with a stove entirely, and use foods that don't need cooking. This
>  won't work for caffeine addicts, though. 
Hey, Andy, don't discount chocolate-covered coffee beans!  

Some US infantry units on patrol use non-cooked foods for several weeks at a
time, even in cold weather, to reduce the chance of detection by infrared.
Apparently there is no physiological need for warmed food.   

For many, the delights of boat-tripping over backpacking include the ability
to tote heavy-duty hardware like Dutch Ovens.  I've enjoyed the luxury of a
double-burner Coleman propane stove, with refillable tank and attached raised
lantern.  

But, the weight and bulk saved by dropping stove, fuel and pots, would be
significant.  More so for super-light trips like a multi-day jaunt in a
whitewater boat, or a Klepper adventure by subway and bus.  And if you wanted
to log 50+ mile days for some reason, it would save a lot of time.

Let's see, we already make bruschetta.... No problem with wine... That great
granola with dried strawberries.  Or fresh strawberries.  

What are your favorite gourmet non-cook foods?  Has anyone tried, say, a four-
day trip without cooking?
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From: R. Walker <rww_at_neosoft.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Foods That Don't Need Cooking
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:54:23 -0600
> Let's see, we already make bruschetta.... No problem with wine... That
> great granola with dried strawberries.  Or fresh strawberries.  
> 
> What are your favorite gourmet non-cook foods?  Has anyone tried, say, a
> four- day trip without cooking?

Ok, why are we doing "gourmet" food in the backcountry when, in 
the course of our normal lives attached to a fully equiped kitchen, 
we settle for McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken?

My favorite backcountry foods are power-bars, raisins, jerky, and a 
recent acquisition: canned sweetened condensed milk.  If for more 
than a couple days, I'll take a couple vitamins / day, to make sure 
the B's and C's don't take a nose dive.   Peanut butter is also a 
good subsitute for the condensed milk.   No breads, no significant 
amounts of fiber.  I max the sugars and fats, and temper it with a 
little store bought protein (jerky).   If sashimi is a possibility, a 
couple packages of wasabi and soy will get stowed in my cargo 
box.

A note on the canned thing.  For most items, the weight of the can 
and water therein is a massive deterent to taking the item.  But 
take a gander at the calorie and fat content in a can of this stuff.
Worth ever last ounce of metal can you have to pack out.


Richard Walker
Houston, TX
http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html
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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Foods That Don't Need Cooking
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:45:22 -0800
R. Walker wrote:
> 
> > Let's see, we already make bruschetta.... No problem with wine... That
> > great granola with dried strawberries.  Or fresh strawberries.
> >
> > What are your favorite gourmet non-cook foods?  Has anyone tried, say, a
> > four- day trip without cooking?
> 
> Ok, why are we doing "gourmet" food in the backcountry when, in
> the course of our normal lives attached to a fully equiped kitchen,
> we settle for McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken?
> 
> My favorite backcountry foods are power-bars, raisins, jerky, and a
> recent acquisition: canned sweetened condensed milk.  If for more
> than a couple days, I'll take a couple vitamins / day, to make sure
> the B's and C's don't take a nose dive.   Peanut butter is also a
> good subsitute for the condensed milk.   No breads, no significant
> amounts of fiber.  I max the sugars and fats, and temper it with a
> little store bought protein (jerky).   If sashimi is a possibility, a
> couple packages of wasabi and soy will get stowed in my cargo
> box.


If my memory of my readings of John Muir's travels in the backcountry
serves me correctly, he went an interesting version of lite.  No
backpack, just a sack that he carried in his hand.  Inside was tea,
flour, and tobacco.  I have this image of it all mixed together and it
being used according to the receptacle.  You know, a small amount of the
mixture in his pipe, a pinch in his cup for tea, and a big amount rolled
up to make bread.  All over an open fire.

Also no tent or sleeping bag.  If it cold at night, he would find a flat
rock and dance all night to keep warm.

That is the way I usually camp, honest!!!!  Well I fib, I do carry sugar
as well.  :-)

ralph
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