I came "onboard" Paddlewise in March, just late enough not to fully twig that it was made up in large part, by and for refugees and veterans of the Great Sponson Wars. For me, the main attraction was, and is, that Paddlewise is sea kayak specific. In some of my early private correspondence with John Winters, I informed him there had been this really ugly debate on RBP around SeeThings. When I happened to go back and read some of the signatures on the RBP postings, I blushingly realised that telling John there had been a debate about SeeThings was approximately like informing one of Winston Churchill's "few" that there had been, you know, this like totally crucial air war called, I think, the Battle of Britain. Anyway, even if the republic of Paddlewise was born in rebellion and adversity, and for initially slightly negative reasons, it certainly seems to me that today we exist and flourish for very positive ones. I really enjoy being able to access a vast range of experience and perspectives on any sea kayaking topic. Just recently I've vowed to better my weather forecasting skills, and learned more of the hidden history of the Inuit, for example. So thanks my fellow Paddlewisers. Thanks especially to Jackie, for gently "riding herd" on the free-wheeling discussion, and all your hard behind-the-scenes work. Happy Holidays, Philip T. "The opinions expressed in this posting are not necessarily those of my employer, or indeed, of any sentient being." **************************************** Mountain Equipment Co-op 1655 West 3rd Avenue, Vancouver, BC, Canada V6J 1K1 Tel: 640-732-1989 Fax: 604-731-6483 email: pid_at_mec.ca Visit our website at: http://www.mec.ca ***************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Product Information Department wrote: > For me, the main attraction was, and is, that > Paddlewise is sea kayak specific. I guess as a canoeist, that makes me an outsider. What the heck, paddling is paddling. We have plenty in common & can learn from each other. I know I'm learning at any rate. Besides, I went though the sp...n wars too. > So thanks my fellow Paddlewisers. Thanks especially to Jackie, for gently > "riding herd" on the free-wheeling discussion, and all your hard > behind-the-scenes work. > I'll second that. It's a great group. Friendly, plenty of current info & history. I enjoy it all even if I don't sea kayak. -- Lloyd Bowles The Mad Canoeist "Keep the open side up!" http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/clearstreets/358/index.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 04:14 PM 12/21/98 -0500, Lloyd Bowles wrote: > > >Product Information Department wrote: > >> For me, the main attraction was, and is, that >> Paddlewise is sea kayak specific. > >I guess as a canoeist, that makes me an outsider. > > >-- >Lloyd Bowles >The Mad Canoeist >"Keep the open side up!" >http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/clearstreets/358/index.html > > We don't mind frozen conoeist, we put up with mark and hank besides it was just to hot to go paddling today. Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 16:14 21-12-98 -0500, Lloyd Bowles <lbowles_at_bmts.com> wrote: > >Product Information Department wrote: > >> For me, the main attraction was, and is, that >> Paddlewise is sea kayak specific. > >I guess as a canoeist, that makes me an outsider. What the heck, paddling is >paddling. We have plenty in common & can learn from each other. I know I'm >learning at any rate. Besides, I went though the sp...n wars too. ah, us outsiders ;-)} there's quite a few, it _is_really all about paddling... >> So thanks my fellow Paddlewisers. Thanks especially to Jackie, for gently >> "riding herd" on the free-wheeling discussion, and all your hard >> behind-the-scenes work. > >I'll second that. It's a great group. Friendly, plenty of current info & >history. 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':| _| |(_||_)|_)\/ |:.'.||"|.'*:| ( | | _/ \:~^~^~^~^:/ __, ,___, /`-....-'\ (--|__| _ |' _| _, , / \ _| |(_)||(_|(_|\//_) `-.,____,.-' ( _/ best wishes to all, happy paddling, mark #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index of Paddling websites I manage] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page #-Fortune: "In a world without fences, who needs 'Gates'" -- Scott McNealy, CEO Sun Microsystems "In a world without walls, who needs 'Windows'" -- Dave Livigni *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Canoeist wrote ... > and begging forgiveness from all who have seen this, but since jackie is a fan of > ascii art [i know not the artist, or i would credit them profusely]: I did a web search and came across ... http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/ascii/ascii-12.html On this site there is a ... "By Barbara L Nelson" at the end. neal_at_bellhow.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
About that twelve days of christmas ... I dug deeper and it seems it is really by Joan Stark I found the clue at ... http://wigwam.askoyv.no/Ascii/m-z/the12days12.txt and the bottom gives attribution and directs you to a web page that Joan Stark maintains at ... http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/ neal_at_bellhow.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I am another of the veterans and injured combatants of the S____S wars over on WaveLength. It seemed that the "discussions" would go on endlessly and it also encouraged posters to be exceptionally rude. I took as much as I could but finally decided that I was wasting my time trying to sort out the signal from the annoying noise. I left Wavelength with a goodbye to those members of the on-line community that I enjoyed reading. Several months later I got an e-mail from Jackie suggesting that I give Paddlewise a try. I did and it's everything that Wavelength should have been. Jackie has done a terrific job. Sometimes it still amazes me when I download my messages in the evening and I've got between 50 and 70, most from Paddlewise. I've concluded that 90% of the messages must get composed at work rather than at home. Anyway, not only have I learned a lot about paddling, I've learned how to scan a message really fast. Thanks, Jackie, and also to all the others who share so much with the rest of us. Bill Ridlon Southern Maine Sea Kayaking Network *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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