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From: <Johnlebl_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Bottom Line of VHF and Cell Phones
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:50:58 EST
I think putting all the posts together that the bottom line on this is todo
your homework for the area you are in.

Different areas use different protocals.

different areas use different location reference points.

For example I have lived here all my life adn listened to boats for 50 years
on teh radios they used at whatever decade it was.

The intracoastal waterway has mile markers from Florida to Texas, but here is
I tell someone on VHF ch13 that I am approaching the schoolhouse or north
forty they know exactly where I am.  If I have done my homework, then I know
also.

YOu cannot wait until you have a need to see if it works.  With EPIRBS you
simply have to.  That is why they have a 90% false alarm rate.  Too many
people "trying it to see if it works".  That increased response time.

I, like others would expect it to work rather slowly, but I would take one
into remote areas.  In fact I have been contemplating exactly that in Summer
2000 on a canoe trip into remote Canada.  I figured exactly what was posted
becasue I had studyied it a lot.  That made me feel good.

The bottom line is to be as familiar with what you are doing adn where you are
doing it as you can.  Right here is where to start.  Each day brings many
posts requesting information.  If we freely give factual information including
the "I don't know, so I'll just read adn learn"  that is a good beginning.

Sometimes you have to realize that "authorities" have an "official position"
that they tell you when you contact them which may or may not be "filtered"
information.

Dave Kruger seems to have a grasp on the drawbacks of ni-cad batteries.  If
you don't mind Dave, could you share which hand held VHF models you find work
well with alkaline.  I have only ceen one advertized and know nothing about
it..

John LeBlanc
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bottom Line of VHF and Cell Phones
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 21:45:58 -0800
Johnlebl_at_aol.com wrote:

> Dave Kruger seems to have a grasp on the drawbacks of ni-cad batteries.  If
> you don't mind Dave, could you share which hand held VHF models you find work
> well with alkaline.  I have only ceen one advertized and know nothing about
> it..

I do not have broad experience with alkaline-capable VHF's.  I have only used ICOM's   IC-M10A,
which is inexpensive, and reliable.  It has been on the market for several years.  I have my radios
tested periodically.  I believe others on the list have more experience with alkaline-equipped
VHF's.  Frankly, I would not expect there to be much difference between VHF's, these days, aside
from degree of "waterproofness."  The latter was the subject of an extensive discussion on this list
a year ago or so.  Perhaps Jackie can tell you how to chase it down -- it may be archived somewhere.

In the case of the M10A, it is not at all waterproof, so that the usual radio bag is a critical
piece of equipment.  I suspect that alkaline battery compartments are more difficult to make
waterproof than NiCad compartments.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: Don Watson <dwatson_at_up.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bottom Line of VHF and Cell Phones
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:38:06 -0500
The Icom IC - M9 VHF has an optional battery pack that operates the radio
off of 6 AA alkaline batteries. It's quite compact, water repellent, but not
water proof.
Cheers,
Don Watson

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From: Johnlebl_at_aol.com <Johnlebl_at_aol.com>
To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 11:57 PM
Subject: [Paddlewise] Bottom Line of VHF and Cell Phones


>I think putting all the posts together that the bottom line on this is todo
>your homework for the area you are in.
>
>Different areas use different protocals.
>
>different areas use different location reference points.
>
>For example I have lived here all my life adn listened to boats for 50
years
>on teh radios they used at whatever decade it was.
>
>The intracoastal waterway has mile markers from Florida to Texas, but here
is
>I tell someone on VHF ch13 that I am approaching the schoolhouse or north
>forty they know exactly where I am.  If I have done my homework, then I
know
>also.
>
>YOu cannot wait until you have a need to see if it works.  With EPIRBS you
>simply have to.  That is why they have a 90% false alarm rate.  Too many
>people "trying it to see if it works".  That increased response time.
>
>I, like others would expect it to work rather slowly, but I would take one
>into remote areas.  In fact I have been contemplating exactly that in
Summer
>2000 on a canoe trip into remote Canada.  I figured exactly what was posted
>becasue I had studyied it a lot.  That made me feel good.
>
>The bottom line is to be as familiar with what you are doing adn where you
are
>doing it as you can.  Right here is where to start.  Each day brings many
>posts requesting information.  If we freely give factual information
including
>the "I don't know, so I'll just read adn learn"  that is a good beginning.
>
>Sometimes you have to realize that "authorities" have an "official
position"
>that they tell you when you contact them which may or may not be "filtered"
>information.
>
>Dave Kruger seems to have a grasp on the drawbacks of ni-cad batteries.  If
>you don't mind Dave, could you share which hand held VHF models you find
work
>well with alkaline.  I have only ceen one advertized and know nothing about
>it..
>
>John LeBlanc
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