RE: [Paddlewise] Re enrty/roll Challenge

 
John,

Yes, good points on all counts.  I wasn't aware that paddlefloats were
mainly a north american artifact. 

At any rate, it wasn't clear from my post, but I was directing my challenge
principally at those how advocate the "outrigger and climb back in"
paddlefloat rescue.  

If I had a foot operated pump, I probably wouldn't bother with the
paddlefloat as well.  For me, the only reason I use the paddlefloat is to
help stabilize the boat while I pump it out.  I also would probably leave
off the paddlefloat if I was near enough to shore to paddle back with a
flooded cockpit.  As for the forarm or sholder brace while operating a hand
pump, that would be a cool trick. I'd be very impressed by anyone who could
pull that off.

--Tim

P.S. By the way, I am throughly enjoying your "shape of the canoe" book.
Thank you for writing it!  Its a valuable contribution to the
canoing/kayaking literature.  Have you ever though of publishing it with a
mainstream press so it could be more broadly distributed?  

 
-----Original Message-----
From: John C. Winskill
To: Mattson, Timothy G
Cc: 'VajraT_at_aol.com '; 'dlloyd_at_inetex.com '; 'PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net
'
Sent: 1/29/99 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Re enrty/roll Challenge

I'm sorry Tim but I'm afraid you might well lose your challenge.  I can
think of two possibilities right off:  
1.  Use of a foot pump enables you to pump out while bracing or even
paddling.
2.  Use of an off-shoulder paddle brace or a forearm paddle brace would
enable you to empty your boat with a pump also.
Remember that the use of the paddlefloat is, for the most part, limited
to North American and, though handy, it is only one tool in an arsenal.
A great many world-class paddlers have never carried one with them.  On
the other hand, I have to disagree with John Dowd as well. The
paddlefloat can be used to great effect when used as part of a re-enter
and roll.  It isn't as fast as a straight re-enter and roll but it is a
whole lot faster than a standard paddlefloat rescue and you don't have
to go through the hassle of removing the paddlefloat/paddle combination
off your back deck when you're done.

John Winskill

Mattson, Timothy G wrote:
> 
> I consider the re-entry roll without a paddle float, in rough
conditions to
> be little more than a trick.  It would get you up, but unless you have
an
> electric pump, you'd most likely capsize as you tried to pump out the
boat.
>> 
snip
>> 
> In fact, I'm going to prove to everyone that I can be just as arrogant
as
> John Dowd is in his books.  I  challenge anyone to a rough water
contest
> between the two techniques.  I'm confident I'll win!!!!!
> 
> --Tim
>
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