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From: Robert Woodard <woodardr_at_tidalwave.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Kayak fitting
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:07:08 -0500
Actually, I'm not sure what the subject line should read. After yesterday's
5 hour paddle, today the muscles in the back of my leg are sore. I caught
myself several times pressing real hard on the foot pegs. Is this normal?
Could this be the result of the foot pegs not adjusted properly?

I find my leg position in my kayak to always be uncomfortable. I've tried
placing my knees where they touch the deck, but this seems hard to hold for
any long period of time. Most of the time my legs are just slightly bent and
pressing on the foot pegs...sometimes very strongly on each paddle stroke.
Almost like I'm bouncing on them. My knees tend to just hang in the air and
I'm also pretty bow legged). With my knees against the deck, I feel "almost"
in the right position, but just to low to hold for hours at a time. If I
could bring my knees up another couple of inches I think it would feel fine.

My heels touch each other and my feet angle out to the pedals. Maybe
everything is fitting properly and my leg muscles are just getting tired
from the workout?

Thanks in advance for the hints and ideas....

Woody


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From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak fitting
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:08:13 -0800
Robert Woodard wrote:
> 
> Actually, I'm not sure what the subject line should read. After yesterday's
> 5 hour paddle, today the muscles in the back of my leg are sore. I caught
> myself several times pressing real hard on the foot pegs. Is this normal?
> Could this be the result of the foot pegs not adjusted properly?
> Get yourself some sort of pillow and stuff it under your legs. I use
a stuff bag filled with foam rubber; a buddy of mine uses a roll of
foam rubber held together with ductape. This takes a lot of stress
off of the legs. 


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From: Robert Woodard <woodardr_at_tidalwave.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Kayak fitting
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:45:50 -0500
> Get yourself some sort of pillow and stuff it under your legs. I use
> a stuff bag filled with foam rubber; a buddy of mine uses a roll of
> foam rubber held together with ductape. This takes a lot of stress
> off of the legs.

That is an idea to try. Have you had any problem getting out of your kayak
(normally or during a wet exit) with the foam in place? Roughly how big is
the roll (diameter)?


Woody


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From: Tom... <gadfly_at_isomedia.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak fitting
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:07:37 -0800
Wes, I think you have a good idea,

	Matter of fact I am hoping to extend my seat a bit further with some [is
it closed cell foam?] foam I have used to do the majority of "fitting out"
my kayak.  It was something I was contemplating before I got
"land-locked..." in March.

	Clearly I will attempt a follow through on this.

	I have a wonderful Article by a fellow a little bit up north about Fitting
Out a Kayak that Robert might find helpful as well.

	Experience by those who've done this are happy with the results...

	Hope this also helps...

	Tom...



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From: Philip Wylie <pjwylie_at_planet.eon.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Remember the Bean Bag chairs?
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:04:30 -0700
Wes Boyd wrote:

> Get yourself some sort of pillow and stuff it under your legs. I use  
> a stuff bag filled with foam rubber; a buddy of mine uses a roll of
> foam rubber held together with ductape. This takes a lot of stress
> off of the legs.
____________________________________________________________________

Robert,

A second option in employing this idea, as suggested by Wess,
is to construct a vinyl bean bag pillow (filled with styrene beads)
instead of foam rubber. Remember the bean bag chairs? Sure works.


Cheers,

Philip


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> Robert Woodard wrote:

> > Actually, I'm not sure what the subject line should read. After     yesterday's
> > 5 hour paddle, today the muscles in the back of my leg are sore. I     caught
> > myself several times pressing real hard on the foot pegs. Is this     normal?
> > Could this be the result of the foot pegs not adjusted properly?
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From: Richard Mitchell <mitchelr_at_ucs.orst.edu>
subject: [Paddlewise] Bean bags and cameras.
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:38:42 -0800
Those bean bags can serve other purposes.  On long canoe trips in
the Canadian territories we used to carry a small pillow of
styrofoam beads as a "tripod" when using long focal length
lenses.  The bag form and would sit securely atop the canoe bow,
a tree system, rock or other projection.  The camera would nestle
snugly on top of the bag.  I've used this system with up to 200
mm lens quite successfully.  

RGM

Philip Wylie wrote:
> 
> Wes Boyd wrote:
> 
> > Get yourself some sort of pillow and stuff it under your legs. I use
> > a stuff bag filled with foam rubber; a buddy of mine uses a roll of
> > foam rubber held together with ductape. This takes a lot of stress
> > off of the legs.
> ____________________________________________________________________
> 
> Robert,
> 
> A second option in employing this idea, as suggested by Wess,
> is to construct a vinyl bean bag pillow (filled with styrene beads)
> instead of foam rubber. Remember the bean bag chairs? Sure works.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Philip
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Robert Woodard wrote:
> 
> > > Actually, I'm not sure what the subject line should read. After     yesterday's
> > > 5 hour paddle, today the muscles in the back of my leg are sore. I     caught
> > > myself several times pressing real hard on the foot pegs. Is this     normal?
> > > Could this be the result of the foot pegs not adjusted properly?
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From: Robert Woodard <woodardr_at_tidalwave.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Bean bags and cameras.
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:01:06 -0500
The bean bag and foam pillows sound like great ideas! Thanks for all the
suggestions. Now where did I put that bean bag....?

Woody


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From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak fitting
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:25:12 -0800
Robert Woodard wrote:
>
> > Get yourself some sort of pillow and stuff it under your legs. I use
> > a stuff bag filled with foam rubber; a buddy of mine uses a roll of
> > foam rubber held together with ductape. This takes a lot of stress
> > off of the legs.
>
> That is an idea to try. Have you had any problem getting out of your kayak
> (normally or during a wet exit) with the foam in place? Roughly how big is
> the roll (diameter)?

The pad I use is about four inches thick, six inches wide, and about fourteen
inches long. It doesn't impede getting in or out at all, probably because I
have a fairly large cockpit, although I'm a pretty big guy, too. I started
out with a sheet of foam rubber that I rolled and folded various ways to get
the most comfortable configuration. I had real pain in staying in the boat
more than about an hour before I came up with this -- it makes a world of
difference.

You might like to look at:

http://www2.dmci.net/users/wesboyd/legs.htm

-- Wes

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From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak fitting
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:26:54 -0800
(Pete Cresswell) wrote:
>
> RE:
> >> Get yourself some sort of pillow and stuff it under your legs. I use
> >a stuff bag filled with foam rubber; a buddy of mine uses a roll of
> >foam rubber held together with ductape. This takes a lot of stress
> >off of the legs.
>
> That's where I used to stash my foam-filled paddle float.   Useful for
> supporting the thighs, didn't interfere with wet exiting, doubled as
> supplemental personal floatation when raising the bow to dump water out...

Hmmmm . . . **very good idea!** I've been following a discussion foam, as
opposed to inflatable paddle floats, but have wondered just where I
would stash the beast . . . it might be a little firmer than I'm looking
for, but will chew it over and give it a try . . .

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