There might be a law of diminishing returns where dry suit insulation is concerned, in which the insulation effectiveness you lose from having sweated nullifies the extra thickness of the insulation. Chuck Holst >> The moisture in my insulation appeared to help transfer my body heat to the cold lake water. << Dana Dickson *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Hank wrote; >I hear that those sorts of things don't happen with those imitation (non >Canadian) ballast rocks. Might give those a try (John LeBlanc was setting >up for bringing them in?). They're less expensive, too (John Winters has >larceny in his heart...) <grin> I have nothing but the love in my heart for all mankind as anyone who has read my philanthropic dissertations on kayak safety will know. Well, except for killing a few children but then, I had help from Ralph. :-) Besides, who is Hank Hays to be talking about other peoples' larceny. Has anyone priced his paddles? %-} Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
highly edited for humorsake At 19:07 05-01-99 -0500, "John Winters" wrote: >Hank wrote; >> They're less expensive, too (John Winters has >>larceny in his heart...) <grin> >Besides, who is Hank Hays to be talking about other peoples' larceny. Has >anyone priced his paddles? %-} > >Cheers, >John Winters he's using virgin graphite ... oh, wrong list, wait, that means logging companies... wait, the great whale killer, paddles from whale...nevermind ;-) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 1/5/1999 7:37:27 PM EST, 735769_at_ican.net writes: << Besides, who is Hank Hays to be talking about other peoples' larceny. Has anyone priced his paddles? %-} >> Oh but no! These are quality, lightweight paddles, not simply a mis balanced boat correctly leveled by inflated priced Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM) John LeBlanc *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 1/6/1999 6:50:43 AM EST, mhh_at_aretha.jax.org writes: << I can supply a make-your-own bubble wrap dry suit insulation kit for around $450.00 if anyone wants to try it..... mark >> Custon fit or one size fits all? John *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 04:01 AM 1/6/99 -0800, Dave Kruger wrote: >I'll market my improvement on Mark's suggestion for only, say, $650 per >kit, and offer a two-year warranty on replacing the bubbles. Some assembly >required ... And batteries not included?... <Grin> Hank Hays *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 1/6/1999 11:49:53 AM EST, lhays_at_canby.com writes: << and offer a two-year warranty on replacing the bubbles. Some assembly >required ... And batteries not included?... <Grin> Hank Hays >> I can see it now! This damned pink rabbit in an overstuffed wet suit hippity hopping down to the shore where his sea yak called "thumpers dumper" is waiting! John *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
---------- > From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com> > Mark H. Hunt wrote: > > > > Well, it sounds as if several inner layers of bubble wrap might > > privide that non-compressible dry suit insulation. I can supply a > > make-your-own bubble wrap dry suit insulation kit for around $450.00 if > > anyone wants to try it..... > > Tongue-in-cheek, Mark's suggestion might be, but he may have hit on a way > to achieve a FLEXIBLE noncompressible insulation material. --snip-- In the mid-70s I came across a book promoting winter camping using closed cell foam. The author went into great detail as to how to cut and tape pieces of ensolite together to make a winter suit, and then went on to explain that it was imperative not to perspire. He recommended that one should put on the suit and then sit quietly in the snow, avoiding all motion. I thought that this was too dull an activity to become popular, but then about fifteen years later I came across a study which found that sitting was the most popular form of recreation -- not sitting while talking, or reading, or watching the TV -- just sitting. It was then that I realized that the author of the winter camping book was a man ahead of his time. On related notes, lately there has been a thread on the BWCA/Quetico list concerning whether or not one should tote other parties' packs on portages -- the consensus seems to be no. Just a few minutes ago I received an e-mail from a friend saying that he and his partner will be out skiing tonight, even though the temperature will be -30 less an additional wind chill warning, and that I should not be surprised to come across them frozen into a snow drift like popsicles. Putting all this together, I have come to the conclusion that snowbank sitting will become a popular winter recreational activity as we end the millenium (just as flag pole sitting was a popular summer activity in the 30s), and I would urge all PaddleWise readers to respect the wishes of those whom they might come across laying about in drifts. Please don't try to warm them up or feed them. Just let them commune with nature. Richard Culpeper Ring-ding-ding-ringa-ringa-ding-ding www.geocities.com/~culpeper > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Richard wrote >> >Putting all this together, I have come to the conclusion that snowbank >sitting will become a popular winter recreational activity as we end the >millenium (just as flag pole sitting was a popular summer activity in the >30s), and I would urge all PaddleWise readers to respect the wishes of >those whom they might come across laying about in drifts. Please don't try >to warm them up or feed them. Just let them commune with nature. > Hey Richard, we have been snow bank sitting for years but we call it ice fishing which wouldn't be evident by the results. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 1/8/1999 7:28:17 AM EST, Bhansen97 writes: << Hell, I have yards of old bubble wrap lying around I'll sell for $435. Let the price wars begin! - Bill Hansen >> John Winters is not going to like this one bit. People making money faster than he does selling genuine Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM). I feel a lawsuit comming on from the frigid northland. John *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 08:37 PM 1/8/99 EST, Bluecanoe2_at_aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 1/8/1999 7:28:17 AM EST, Bhansen97 writes: > ><< Hell, I have yards of old bubble wrap lying around I'll sell for $435. Let >the price wars begin! - Bill Hansen >> > >John Winters is not going to like this one bit. People making money faster >than he does selling genuine Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM). I feel a lawsuit >comming on from the frigid northland. > >John What else is John W. going to do the water is Canadian Ballast Rock hard up there so he can't paddle and has to do some thing to keep him self insane oops sane.Its either that or make babies. Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Official Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM) are all the more important in the Canadian winter. How else could we break through the ice to fetch water? What else could we use to keep our toes warm in bed? Any cheap imitation can keep a boat right side up, but only Official Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM) can also withstand warming in the fire without splitting. Cheers, Richard Culpeper www.geocities.com/~culpeper dldecker_at_se.mediaone.net wrote: > > What else is John W. going to do the water is Canadian Ballast Rock hard up > there so he can't paddle and has to do some thing to keep him self insane > oops sane.Its either that or make babies. > > Dana > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> >What else is John W. going to do the water is Canadian Ballast Rock hard up >there so he can't paddle and has to do some thing to keep him self insane >oops sane.Its either that or make babies. Uhh, we also ski, skate, snowshoe, and go winter camping. OK, not as much fun as siting around the bar at St. Thomas soaking up the rum with a bunch of sailing buddies but one copes. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
John wrote; >John Winters is not going to like this one bit. People making money faster >than he does selling genuine Canadian Ballast Rocks (TM). I feel a lawsuit >comming on from the frigid northland. I don't mind. Anyone who makes a living ripping of paddlers can't be all bad. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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